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Old 12-01-2018, 09:26 PM
 
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I have two words for you. New Mexico. The bluest of the bue and yet at the bottom of the ladder in every social and economic metric. Well, except for making meth in RVs.
This is about Mississippi. Stop deflecting.
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Old 12-11-2018, 10:49 AM
 
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A strong Republican candidate will easily take Cindy Hyde-Smith out in 2020! The lady is dumb as a doorknob!
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Old 12-11-2018, 02:36 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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I feel bad for those in Misssissippi whp want a a better state, with better education and infastructure. Mississippi is the American conservative ideology taken to the full extreme, with the state predictably last in the all the good categories and last in all the bad categories. Until Mississippi abandons American conservatism and adopts more progressive policies, it will continue to be an anchor on social progress, educational attainment, and quality infastructure in the American republic.
Progressives ran the state for over 100 years. They only recently lost power to the Republicans.
So your "analysis" is nonsense.
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Old 12-11-2018, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Progressives ran the state for over 100 years. They only recently lost power to the Republicans.
So your "analysis" is nonsense.
only recently?

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Like many southern states, Mississippi voted almost exclusively with the Democratic Party from Reconstruction through the early 1960s, when civil rights legislation and a Republican tactic called the “Southern Strategy” helped turn the state “red.” Three times since World War II, Mississippi has voted all its electors for third-party candidates, more than any other state. Since 1972, the state has voted Republican, except for 1976 when it supported Jimmy Carter of Georgia. Unlike many other southern states, Mississippi has not experienced great population growth; the 2000 census led to the state being reduced from seven to six electoral votes, the lowest number since 1848. In 2016, Donald Trump easily won the state by 58% to Hillary Clinton's 40%. https://www.270towin.com/states/mississippi
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Old 12-11-2018, 03:03 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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only recently?
State senate runs the state.
State senate went Republican for the first time in 2011.
https://ballotpedia.org/Mississippi_State_Senate


Blaming Mississippi problems on Republicans is absurd. The Democrats ran the state for many, many years. We don't want them back.
OTOH, Mississippi will not experience growth of any real consequence anytime in the near future. Blame it on whatever you wish, but get your facts straight, please.
I don't think Hyde-Smith is all that appealing, but she will support Trump and that's what we wanted.
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Old 12-12-2018, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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State senate runs the state.
State senate went Republican for the first time in 2011.
https://ballotpedia.org/Mississippi_State_Senate


Blaming Mississippi problems on Republicans is absurd. The Democrats ran the state for many, many years. We don't want them back.
OTOH, Mississippi will not experience growth of any real consequence anytime in the near future. Blame it on whatever you wish, but get your facts straight, please.
I don't think Hyde-Smith is all that appealing, but she will support Trump and that's what we wanted.
Yep. Mississippi State legislature went republican for the first time since reconstruction only after the tea party wave. The same is true for other Southern legislatures.
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Old 12-13-2018, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Yep. Mississippi State legislature went republican for the first time since reconstruction only after the tea party wave. The same is true for other Southern legislatures.
And another thing: Mississippi democrats then were more conservative than modern democrats. But, then again, the national democrat party as a whole was more conservative then vs. today. Hell, as late as 2008 Hillary had a tone on immigration similar to Trump and opposed same sex marriage (Obama opposed same sex marriage until 2012). Where it mattered, though, Mississippi and other southern ruling democratic parties were far to the left than the republicans that would eventually replace them; again, this is a process that took place only after the 2010 tea party wave for most of the south. This is true from everything from taxes to labor to spending to judicial appointments, etc. Contrary to today's leftist narrative, the south didn't become republican over night after the civil rights and voting rights acts passed Far from that is the case, even at the presidential level where Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter proved that moderate democrats could still do well in the region.
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Old 12-13-2018, 12:51 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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And another thing: Mississippi democrats then were more conservative than modern democrats. But, then again, the national democrat party as a whole was more conservative then vs. today. Hell, as late as 2008 Hillary had a tone on immigration similar to Trump and opposed same sex marriage (Obama opposed same sex marriage until 2012). Where it mattered, though, Mississippi and other southern ruling democratic parties were far to the left than the republicans that would eventually replace them; again, this is a process that took place only after the 2010 tea party wave for most of the south. This is true from everything from taxes to labor to spending to judicial appointments, etc. Contrary to today's leftist narrative, the south didn't become republican over night after the civil rights and voting rights acts passed Far from that is the case, even at the presidential level where Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter proved that moderate democrats could still do well in the region.
I couldn't argue much with what you say, although I'm sure you know the position I saw the Democrats take in 1963 doesn't exist anywhere in America now.
Hyde-Smith was a Democrat until 2011, and supported Hillary. Voted for her in the primary, even.
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