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Old 01-28-2019, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Again, a criminal is a criminal . Your child should be in school . Simple as that .


So you are admitting she didn't do anything wrong .
Not all crimes are equal, saying a criminal is a criminal is what got you the Clinton crime bill.

It is horrible that our country still thinks this way.

So no, I don’t concede anything.
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Old 01-28-2019, 07:09 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Not all crimes are equal, saying a criminal is a criminal is what got you the Clinton crime bill.

It is horrible that our country still thinks this way.

So no, I don’t concede anything.
I don't have a problem with the crime bill, I have a problem with unequal enforcement( aka policing ) .

I'm betting the same is true of you , but you are so caught up in attacking a prosecutor that you are forgetting that .

Unless Kamala went after black people specifically( which you already admitted she didnt, then you have no argument .

The people who made it to her desk all deserved it.
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Old 01-28-2019, 07:12 PM
 
Location: IL
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i will just write in karl marx comrades
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Old 01-28-2019, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I know this, but policy like ending college debt, single payer, etc. weren't discussed by the democratic party openly for a long time. Now it has become MS since Bernie ran.

As for the bold, I have no clue, I only watched the video. Glenn Greenwald retweeted which is where I got it.
It looks like the Dems have been talking about "Medicare for All" since 2003, 16 years now. Bernie didn't invent this idea.
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Old 01-28-2019, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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It looks like the Dems have been talking about "Medicare for All" since 2003, 16 years now. Bernie didn't invent this idea.
No they haven't.

No where in the Obama years or the 2016 election did it show up until Bernie brought it up.

Do you think every major democratic nominee would have endorsed it if not for him? Because Gillibrand, Kamala, etc. all had not before Bernie.
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Old 01-28-2019, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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Bernie isn't my first choice, he's my last choice. Socialism doesn't work.
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Old 01-28-2019, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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No they haven't.

No where in the Obama years or the 2016 election did it show up until Bernie brought it up.

Do you think every major democratic nominee would have endorsed it if not for him? Because Gillibrand, Kamala, etc. all had not before Bernie.
Did you miss the link (complete with a quote) about John Conyers introducing Medicare for All in the House in 2003, with 25 co-sponsors?

If you are involved in health care, as I am, you've heard about this stuff for decades, actually.
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Old 01-28-2019, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Did you miss the link (complete with a quote) about John Conyers introducing Medicare for All in the House in 2003, with 25 co-sponsors?

If you are involved in health care, as I am, you've heard about this stuff for decades, actually.
And you've heard it die down as well after the 90s.

2003 it got the vast minority of democratic support, and was rarely talked about in the mainstream of the party. Kerry nor Obama supported it, and by 2015 it was not discussed as an Issue for 2016.

When Bernie became popular, that changed everything. I will ask you again, do you think Kamala et all would have endorsed it if not for Bernie?
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Old 01-28-2019, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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And you've heard it die down as well after the 90s.

2003 it got the vast minority of democratic support, and was rarely talked about in the mainstream of the party. Kerry nor Obama supported it, and by 2015 it was not discussed as an Issue for 2016.

When Bernie became popular, that changed everything. I will ask you again, do you think Kamala et all would have endorsed it if not for Bernie?
I don't have a Ouija board or a seer stone, so I can't answer. I don't deal with "might haves"and the like. It seems like its time has come, like gay marriage and a lot of other things.
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Old 01-28-2019, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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I don't have a Ouija board or a seer stone, so I can't answer. I don't deal with "might haves"and the like. It seems like its time has come, like gay marriage and a lot of other things.
You don't have to. Kamala, Booker, etc. new endorsed Medicare For All.

It was Bernie's bill and the pressure he brought that got democrats on board.
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