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Old 01-31-2019, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Clinton Operatives Targeting This Presidential Candidate | American Action News

Clinton Operatives Targeting This Presidential Candidate

...According to The Daily Wire:
Just a day after announcing that he was strongly considering a presidential run as an independent in 2020, former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz was greeted by a protester at a campaign-style event who wanted him to know that he was an "egotistical billionaire a**hole" who was going to get Donald Trump re-elected. By Wednesday, former Hillary Clinton operatives had already launched an effort to organize more disruptions and protests targeting the not-radical-enough Schultz...
Hillary won't announce until the spring. This clown circus is going to be fun to watch.
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Old 01-31-2019, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Are you willing to listen?

Here's the thing: Schultz has said he absolutely does not want to see Trump re-elected. He has also said he does not support the Democratic party as it exists today.

I guess my question, at this point, would be this: if he wants Trump gone, why does he not either run against him as a moderate Republican, or run as a moderate Democrat, and try to nudge the Dems closer to the center?

There are many reasons it would be difficult for an independent to actually get to the White House, and right now, it seems like the most he could hope for is to be a spoiler. Who gets spoiled is up for debate, but either way, it's not likely to result in a more centrist POTUS.
1. he is NOT a republican..so why would he run as a republican...are you advocating for another trump type??


2. the democrat(politicians) have moved so far to the left, they might as well dump being called democrats and just be called the liberal party, or the fascio-socialist party




Schultz is a moderate true democrat (still on the left, but closer to center, like a Truman democrat)


Schultz could actually either split the democrats (between democrats and the far left liberals)


Schultz could also get the independent voters who are sick of the far left and far right


Schultz could also capture republicans who are sick of the religious right that invaded their party




Schultz is actually the best thing for the democrats, if they want to shake off the dirty fascio-socialist liberal faction that has been causing chaos
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Old 01-31-2019, 11:24 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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The democratic race is about who can go furthest to the left right now. It’s about being unhinged, about saying the nastiest things to get trump out.
Here comes Schultz and he has centrist ideas that make sense to a silent majority. For example, he doesn’t stand for eliminating private insurance - most people are happy with their plans. If this makes Democrats nervous then by all means please run.
good post.
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Old 01-31-2019, 11:27 AM
 
Location: California
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He absolutely should run if he wants, that's how AMERICA works people. It's not just for groomed and polished professional politicians only. Jesus, it's like nobody knows anything about our country or it's system of governance.
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Old 01-31-2019, 11:30 AM
 
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This is just the start for Mr. Schultz....the private conversations pressuring him to quit. The *stories* that will pop up on Huffpo, CNN etc. about how he denied a promotion to person ABC at starbucks due to race or gender(anonymous or otherwise). The claims from people scared he might vote-split about the time in school when he did something *bad*.

One giant smear job is coming his way and it's going to start little and build if he gains traction.

Guy was completely loved (except by the right) but now he's a *problem* and by this time next year he's gonna be "worse than hitler" lmao.

P.S. Laughing that Beto had to delete a tweet to an article doing a hit job on Kamala, Warren etc. but their operatives lit him up on CNN for his race and gender. Come on Beto, you gotta have your footsoldiers do that stuff rookie.
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Old 01-31-2019, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Boston
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once the liberal media discovers Schultz donated 30M to veterans suffering from PTSD in 2014 they'll run him out of the race.
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Old 01-31-2019, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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I didn't say impossible. I said difficult, and I stand by that. Our current system is not friendly to independent or third-party candidates.

I doubt I would vote for him, based on what I have heard so far, but honestly, other than "I don't like Trump," and "I don't like the Democrats," I haven't heard much, at least in terms of actual policy.
Timing is everything. Trump would not have won a decade ago - he picked the right time.

For Schultz, it is exactly the right time. It would still be the right time for him in 4 years if Trump wins again this time. This country is craving people who are not bought and paid for. And maybe you should read more about him. His own principles speak as to what kind of person he is:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...id/2697023002/

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He grew up in public housing in Brooklyn, New York, and became the first person in his family to graduate from college.
Extremely relatable to a lot of people. Not only that, we don't have to hear whining about how he "inherited" a million and that's the only reason he's wealthy now - he worked hard at it, and he became a huge success. That's inspirational.

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He took over Starbucks when it sold only coffee beans, not cups – it had 11 stores and fewer than 100 employees at the time – and grew it into a global behemoth that now has close to 30,000 stores in 78 countries. Along the way he adopted an ethos of corporate responsibility, making Starbucks one of the earliest U.S. companies to offer stock options and health insurance even to part-time employees, and more recently partnering with Arizona State University to cover tuition for workers who want to earn their bachelor’s degree online.
What more could a lefty want? He's giving even part time employees all of those things - unheard of. He chose to do that, not because it's a norm - it's miles away from the norm. He started off small...wait, what's that song - he started from the bottom, now he's here. He's just like others - again, relatable and inspirational.

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While some potential nominees, including Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren and California Sen. Kamala Harris, have endorsed single-payer health care, heavily taxing the rich or free tuition at public colleges, Schultz has criticized some such proposals as unrealistic and instead emphasized expanding the economy and curbing entitlements to get the national debt under control.
That will appeal to many Independents and even the die hard Never Trumpers.

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“It concerns me that so many voices within the Democratic Party are going so far to the left,” Schultz told CNBC last June.
That's going to get those Independents again, the die hard Never Trumpers again, and moderate Dems who have walked away but still don't want to be Republican - he's exactly the answer for them.

Anecdote that essentially backs up what I'm claiming:

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Will Stiles worked at Starbucks for 17 years. The company’s culture was laid-back when Schultz arrived, with workers wearing cutoffs and flip-flops, and stores sometimes closing for days at a time so employees could go to a resort, he said. Schultz wore suits.

“He’s all, ‘Clean this! Clean that!’ and he’s got shiny shoes,” Stiles said. “We were like, who is this guy?”

But Schultz had vision and drive, and he had the workers undergo training in sales and in the product, Stiles said. By offering stock options and benefits, he involved the employees in Starbucks’ success. Stiles said he believes Schultz could similarly inspire Americans to be more invested in the country’s future.
He's going to attract a LOT of people from the left, the middle, and even some from the right. As it's made clear in the beginning of that article, the Dems who are getting incensed with him are the ones who are playing a political game right now. With Schultz, while I don't agree with everything so far, he seems to genuinely want to make a difference, not just show up and get paid. I know the left doesn't believe it, but that's what Trump wanted to do - he genuinely wanted to make a difference. Those kind of people can get elected, and no, it doesn't mean it will be difficult.

The only thing that will be difficult is that Schultz could go through what Trump went through, depending on how scared the left is of him. He could get called every name under the sun, badgered, treated like trash, mocked, insulted, (which is why I always laugh when someone on the left or even a never Trumper wants to cry about what Trump writes in his tweets - like they gave one damn about being abusive aholes when Trump was campaigning), etc.

If he can withstand all of that, and even bankroll his own campaign in the same way Trump did, as he has what Trump had, he could actually give the left and the right a real run for their money. He could easily beat the Dems, and it's possible, that were it between him and Trump, he could beat Trump.

If he does run - he's going to have to do a whole lot of work because guaranteed the left is going to try to tear him down and black him out in the media - but the people are aware, and they will be watching - the type of people who would vote for Schultz are not the type of people who give two rats' fluffy derrieres about what the media thinks.
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Old 01-31-2019, 01:39 PM
 
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This is just the start for Mr. Schultz....the private conversations pressuring him to quit. The *stories* that will pop up on Huffpo, CNN etc. about how he denied a promotion to person ABC at starbucks due to race or gender(anonymous or otherwise). The claims from people scared he might vote-split about the time in school when he did something *bad*.

One giant smear job is coming his way and it's going to start little and build if he gains traction.

Guy was completely loved (except by the right) but now he's a *problem* and by this time next year he's gonna be "worse than hitler" lmao.

P.S. Laughing that Beto had to delete a tweet to an article doing a hit job on Kamala, Warren etc. but their operatives lit him up on CNN for his race and gender. Come on Beto, you gotta have your footsoldiers do that stuff rookie.
Or maybe he colluded with some Russian? BTW, did you know that the Democrats tried this same tactic on John McCain, too?
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Old 01-31-2019, 01:41 PM
 
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Don't kid yourself. Shultz is no centrist.
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Old 01-31-2019, 01:51 PM
 
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Schulz has lived the American dream, having started with nothing. He's turned Starbucks into a chain of homeless shelters and 'shooting galleries.' A Demwit dream candidate.
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