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Old 04-16-2008, 01:19 PM
 
Location: The 719
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Sure you did.

I have an even lower tolerance for people who justify America's attack on Vietnam and the contrinuing atrocities that occur there because of what America did there.
So according to our Veteran here, this response is technically off topic-perhaps. McCain's comments were with regards to what was done in Korea, not Vietnam.

Now based on this info, will McCain's statement hurt him?

 
Old 04-16-2008, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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WOW, thats a pretty horrendous thing to say.

Does anyone remember that he said it ?
 
Old 04-16-2008, 01:45 PM
 
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If he said "I hate white people"... Would we still want him?

Good question. Answer; no. That's regardless of whether we're white or not.

In response to Barefoot Babe;
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WOW, thats a pretty horrendous thing to say.Does anyone remember that he said it ?
From what I can tell, this is what this is all about:

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"I was referring to my prison guards," McCain said, "and I will continue to refer to them in language that might offend some people because of the beating and torture of my friends." McCain made it clear that his anger extends only toward his captors. As a senator, he was one of the leaders of the postwar effort to normalize U.S. relations with Vietnam.

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Old 04-16-2008, 01:54 PM
 
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Here's that dreaded duplicate.

Bump me up.

Last edited by McGowdog; 04-16-2008 at 02:47 PM.. Reason: Sorry for the dup. It said "Please wait, system is busy"
 
Old 04-16-2008, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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Its one thing to hate the people who tortured you, killed your friend AND kept you prisoner however to use a racial slur to express it seems wrong to me.

If one person of a certain race does me wrong, that doesn't mean all people of that race are the same. Isn't that the definition of racism?
 
Old 04-16-2008, 08:07 PM
 
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I don't think that it will hurt him. I personally think that it shows how he is "bitter" towards people that are different than he is. IMO, I don't think he would have used racial slurs towards white people if the attackers where white. McCain is old school and he probably didn't see anything wrong with using a racial slur until he was called out on it. That isn't right.
 
Old 04-16-2008, 08:24 PM
 
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WW2 veterans that I have spoken to had no problem using slurs to describe the Germans. And I can certainly say that Korean vets have a vocabulary to describe their attackers.

He does specify that his words are only directed towards his attackers and captors and that he has no ill feelings towards other Veitnamese.
 
Old 04-16-2008, 11:17 PM
 
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WW2 veterans that I have spoken to had no problem using slurs to describe the Germans. And I can certainly say that Korean vets have a vocabulary to describe their attackers.

He does specify that his words are only directed towards his attackers and captors and that he has no ill feelings towards other Veitnamese.
I'm sure that makes the Vietnamese people that were not prison gaurds feel so much better about the use of the racial slur.

Old school is different then being a bigot.
 
Old 04-16-2008, 11:20 PM
 
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I can't have double standards for this.
My Grandfather fought in WW2 and called the Germans hurtful names when he refered to the enemy troops only, never at any other time.
I forgive and understand my grandfather, and will do the same for McCain. It's only fair IMO.
 
Old 04-16-2008, 11:21 PM
 
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Old school is different then being a bigot.
Your right.

I believe that most people that are going to vote for McCain will vote for him regardless. He has way too many supporters that don't think twice about name calling.
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