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Old 04-17-2019, 11:21 AM
 
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Buttigieg is an official candidate now... but his website still has NO policy page. None.


He has said isolated things on policy but he isn't focusing on that. You have to look it up so far. It is mainly short general statements, not detailed plans. He says it isn't time for it yet. I disagree. If you run for President you should put out a platform. No reason to be undecided or reluctant to share it... other than for selfish tactical reasons. It will eventually change to some degree I assume; but he has expressed his preference. Image and resume over policy proposals. It may be smart but I don't really agree with it.
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Old 04-17-2019, 11:24 AM
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Buttigieg is an official candidate now... but his website still has NO policy page. None.


He has said isolated things on policy but he isn't focusing on that. You have to look it up so far. It is mainly short general statements, not detailed plans. He says it isn't time for it yet. I disagree. If you run for President you should put out a platform. No reason to be undecided or reluctant to share it... other than for selfish tactical reasons. It will eventually change to some degree I assume; but he has expressed his preference. Image and resume over policy proposals. It may be smart but I don't really agree with it.
You are right and wrong.

Yes, you should always have a platform, but Mayor Pete is clearly answering people's questions when he is meeting them at these townhalls and get togethers.

So its not like he is just out there as being anti Trump, he is putting forth his ideas and people like him. Not having them on his website is not the same as not having a platform.
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Old 04-17-2019, 11:39 AM
 
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Answering people's questions mostly with short general answers or with detailed plans and specific commitments?


Not having them on his website is a decision, for the time being at least, not to have a written platform. And not having a written platform is not having a platform to me. Unless in his speeches he essentially says "... and here is my platform..." or "these are the top things on my platform..."


I'll try to review his announcement and other big speeches. The reporting has not focused much on policy proposals.


Announcement video: One third in before 3 general values / "goals" mentioned. Brief expositions on them. And then... zero policy proposals or commitments in the entire speech.


There is a recent LA Times story on this subject. I haven't been able to read it yet. If anyone has it, I'd be interested in a summary or an excerpt or two.

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Old 04-17-2019, 12:19 PM
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Answering people's questions mostly with short general answers or with detailed plans and specific commitments?


Not having them on his website is a decision, for the time being at least, not to have a written platform. And not having a written platform is not having a platform to me. Unless in his speeches he essentially says "... and here is my platform..." or "these are the top things on my platform..."


I'll try to review his announcement and other big speeches. The reporting has not focused much on policy proposals.


Announcement video: One third in before 3 "goals" mentioned. Brief expositions on them. And then... zero policy proposals or commitments in the entire speech.


There is a recent LA Times story on this subject. I haven't been able to read it yet.
Politicos are going to go to website for specifics, but most people would actually rather hear from the candidate themselves whether in person or on TV/youtube.
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Old 04-17-2019, 12:22 PM
 
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Either way, they didn't get any policy proposals from Buttigieg's website or announcement speech.


What comments has Buttigieg made anywhere that you consider part of a policy platform? How specific and detailed were they?
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Old 04-17-2019, 12:30 PM
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Either way, they didn't get any policy proposals from Buttigieg's website or announcement speech.


What comments has Buttigieg made anywhere that you consider part of a policy platform?
There is like a 2 hour long Townhall readily available for you to watch of him. Or maybe just ask the forum about a specific policy you want to know about ? No one can consume the 40+ townhall/meeting he has had, but some can help you piece it together.

To be clear, i agree on the "put it on your website" argument, but you seem to take that further and argue he has no beliefs, and thats just no true.
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Old 04-17-2019, 12:40 PM
 
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Buttigieg is an official candidate now... but his website still has NO policy page. None.


He has said isolated things on policy but he isn't focusing on that. You have to look it up so far. It is mainly short general statements, not detailed plans. He says it isn't time for it yet. I disagree. If you run for President you should put out a platform. No reason to be undecided or reluctant to share it... other than for selfish tactical reasons. It will eventually change to some degree I assume; but he has expressed his preference. Image and resume over policy proposals. It may be smart but I don't really agree with it.
It didn't work for Hillary either. Say what you will about Trump but he has been consistent about his views from Day 1.
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Old 04-17-2019, 12:43 PM
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It didn't work for Hillary either. Say what you will about Trump but he has been consistent about his views from Day 1.
Hillary put forth policies, the media didnt cover them. She has an hour long economic speech in Detroit that is very detailed, yet didnt get covered by the media.
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Old 04-17-2019, 12:45 PM
 
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Hillary put forth policies, the media didnt cover them. She has an hour long economic speech in Detroit that is very detailed, yet didnt get covered by the media.
Yeah, the media didn't cover her enough. That's why she lost. Probably because they knew she would likely stick her foot in her mouth with another deplorable or like wiping it with a cloth stupid comment. She went for MONTHS without answering any questions from the press. It because a thing to see how many days she would go. They knew from the start the more people saw of her, the worse it was for her.
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Old 04-17-2019, 12:50 PM
 
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I absolutely did not say, imply or argue "he has no beliefs". That is all your statement.

I'll move on.


I'll be reviewing town hall videos.

But a platform is what you highlight as priorities. Responses to questions are positions but not necessarily a platform of what you choose to emphasize in initiated speech or emphasize with actions to make happen.
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