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Old 04-20-2019, 09:10 PM
 
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If Comey had done his job right from the beginning, Sanders would be president today.
Yuk, don't like Sanders. Looks and acts like a mad scientist.
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Old 04-20-2019, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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If Comey had done his job right from the beginning, Sanders would be president today.
Comey sure damaged Hillary. Twice.

I don't think there were many government insiders who were sorry to see him go.

Comey is one of those guys who always jumps up just at the critical time in a meeting when the deal will either be made or broken, and says the wrong thing with the best of intentions.

And then, when everyone is leaving the room in disgust and dismay, he looks around and says "What happened? Was it something I said?"
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Old 04-20-2019, 10:23 PM
 
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Pete Buttigieg
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Old 04-20-2019, 11:03 PM
 
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Yes, Democrats said that and Hillary would have won if Comey hadn’t come out and made his personal opinion public just 10 days before the election. And if the Russians hadn’t interfered with the election (see the Mueller Report). Right-Wingers were saying they hated Hillary. Why do people say all the time, especially on this forum, that they would never vote for Hillary. I personally know many people who hated Hillary then (and still do).

Hillary was much more qualified than Trump. Trump is totally unqualified, even now. He is destroying our nation. He is dishonest and immoral. Read the Mueller Report. Don’t just listen to the grossly distorted version that Barr read.
no proof that Russians swung the election from Hillary to Trump



you just made the mistake of nominating a total hag of a woman that had zero accomplishments and only got anywhere by riding on her husbands coattails as your nominee and it didn't work out, and now you just can't deal
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Old 04-20-2019, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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Yang??? You’ve got to be kidding!
You're going to need the white working class in order to defeat Trump. Bernie, Buttigieg, and Yang are your only viable options at doing that.

Make the mistake of nominating someone like Biden, Beto, or Harris and you'll be living with Trump for four more years. Good luck!
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Old 04-21-2019, 04:56 AM
 
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You're going to need the white working class in order to defeat Trump. Bernie, Buttigieg, and Yang are your only viable options at doing that.

Make the mistake of nominating someone like Biden, Beto, or Harris and you'll be living with Trump for four more years. Good luck!
Generalizing "the white working class" most certainly will support Biden. He's as middle of the road as they come. The question is whether or not those who didn't come out to support Hillary would come out to support him.

The nominating process is different from the general election and I believe that those who aren't interested in staying on the same failed path we have been on will be able to knock Biden's feet out from under him in the process to the general election.

I will note the irony in me being "white working class" and noting that there is no way I'd vote for Biden.
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Old 04-21-2019, 07:33 AM
 
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Read and you might learn something, but I doubt it.

https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...tes-of-change/
LAWL. We predicted the election correctly. You failed. Seems like you might want to learn something.
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Obama has nothing to do with the math.

Whether you use an Obama election (2012) or a Trump one (2016) as the base, the math works the same.
Then your very logic says Trump will win. Math is the same.



BTW, You still can't name a Democrat who will do better than Hillary.
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Old 04-21-2019, 07:38 AM
 
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Comey sure damaged Hillary. Twice.

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Hahahaha. If Hillary had not done the crime, then there would be nothing there. 35,000 classified state department emails on pervert's Anthony Wiener's laptop. Wonder how much of that he accidentally messaged out along with photos of his bulging privates.



How you can defend these people is beyond me.
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Old 04-21-2019, 07:40 AM
 
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You're going to need the white working class in order to defeat Trump. Bernie, Buttigieg, and Yang are your only viable options at doing that.

Make the mistake of nominating someone like Biden, Beto, or Harris and you'll be living with Trump for four more years. Good luck!
Yang and Bernie have no chance of that. Yang is immediately done in by universal standard income. Bernie has no connections to the working class having never been there himself. Agreed on the rest. They are losers.



Buttigieg remains their only sane option.
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Old 04-21-2019, 07:51 AM
 
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Generalizing "the white working class" most certainly will support Biden. ....
Why would the White Working Class support Joe Biden? He's a career establishment politician, who has sold them out every single turn for the last 30 years starting with NAFTA He's supported numerous trade deals, open borders, the idiotic Paris climate deal, TPP, he's used his power to protect monopolies and big interests, and orchestrated wars of choice which got their kids needlessly killed.



Biden comes will all the baggage of the Democrat party. If ANYONE thinks he's going to do better than Hillary, then they are sadly mistaken.
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