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Not at all. The slogan of many is "there is no such thing as an illegal human being." California among other states allows them to get drivers' licenses and New York is heading in that direction. The U.S. is giving all the benefits and trappings of citizenship without the burdens and responsibilities that come with it.
Yes it is.
It’s a leap to go from limited voting for school board elections in SF to voting in Presidential Elections. No one is advocating that. It’s just more conservative pearl clutching over a non-existent problem.
Obviously this idea is far outside the national mainstream. But there is some very limited voted allowed for unauthorized immigrants in SF.
Apparently prior to WW1, non-citizen voting was allowed in many places.
It’s a leap to go from limited voting for school board elections in SF to voting in Presidential Elections. No one is advocating that. It’s just more conservative pearl clutching over a non-existent problem.
In reality, I don't know what prevents illegals in SF from voting on the entire ballot.
We have the same issue in Sweden, non citizens can vote in municipal and county elections, and some people want them to vote in national elections too.
Some people think illigals should be able to vote in everything as well. Insanity.
I feel like this is a very simple issue, I'll vote in the countries where I'm a citizen and they can vote in whatever sh1thole they came from, if they've adopted the invention of elections yet.
My vote made it 30-0 against allowing them to vote. Not often we have a consensus on anything, but especially anything related to politics.
We'd be fooling ourselves though to believe they aren't already voting in the millions in places like California affecting who wins there. There was a presidential commission set up to research who voted and states like California and Texas refused to let them see the information. Unbelievable that states are getting away with this affecting us all. The federal government should shut down illegals voting, by whatever means necessary. And that includes not allowing states to vote in national elections that refuse to open their books, maybe even kicking their senators and representatives out of office and not be replaced. This is serious business and almost guarantees Democrats presidential wins. Trump was an anomaly because he had cross appeal that blue collar workers liked. Most Republicans could never get that type of support.
My vote made it 30-0 against allowing them to vote. Not often we have a consensus on anything, but especially anything related to politics.
We'd be fooling ourselves though to believe they aren't already voting in the millions in places like California affecting who wins there. There was a presidential commission set up to research who voted and states like California and Texas refused to let them see the information. Unbelievable that states are getting away with this affecting us all. The federal government should shut down illegals voting, by whatever means necessary. And that includes not allowing states to vote in national elections that refuse to open their books, maybe even kicking their senators and representatives out of office and not be replaced. This is serious business and almost guarantees Democrats presidential wins. Trump was an anomaly because he had cross appeal that blue collar workers liked. Most Republicans could never get that type of support.
I'd say we'd be fooling ourselves to buy into the right wing lies that non-citizens are routinely voting. There is less than zero evidence of your fake claim that they are voting by the millions. The inherently biased presidential commission seeking to prove that lie had to shut down because there was no evidence.
Why have a country if you are going to allow foreigners illegally manipulate elections? No, Russia didn't do a damn thing, and you know it. Anyway, the Democrats want Amnesty which is essentially Open Borders solely to promote a large, illegal voting block so they can install one party Totalitarian rule.
Kind of funny when a thread is started, looking for an argument, and there is no one to argue with.
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