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Old 10-15-2019, 05:23 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Right now I absolutely hate having Trump as our President and think he is doing a positively AWFUL job. I couldn't believe a clown was elected. I'm so disappointed that so many, apparently otherwise decent people, voted for him and still continue to support him. All I can figure is that they are not keeping up with what he's really doing?!!
They still support him because he's delivering on the big issues they really care about such as SCOTUS justices that support their Christian Nationalist worldview. Add to that the fact that the Democrats are on the total opposite end of the spectrum on key social issues and also the fact that the "right" people oppose Trump. Also, I don't think a lot of people understand the true depths of the desperation, despair, and anger among the Christian Right when same-sex marriage was legalized and Obama lit up the White House rainbow. That's a HUGE factor in where we are today.
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Old 10-15-2019, 05:37 PM
 
Location: USA
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They still support him because he's delivering on the big issues they really care about such as SCOTUS justices that support their Christian Nationalist worldview. Add to that the fact that the Democrats are on the total opposite end of the spectrum on key social issues and also the fact that the "right" people oppose Trump. Also, I don't think a lot of people understand the true depths of the desperation, despair, and anger among the Christian Right when same-sex marriage was legalized and Obama lit up the White House rainbow. That's a HUGE factor in where we are today.
I’m sure that’s true for the Religious Reich, but their numbers are declining due to demographics.
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Old 10-15-2019, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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That is what the poster was stating, how White supporters of his are major recipients of benefits.

Are we up to speed, now?
Any proof these white uneducated baby factories voted for Trump?

African Americans, Hispanics, and members of other races without advanced degrees confronted even higher poverty rates than working-class whites. But they didn’t gain quite as much from the federal anti-poverty programs. Although the CBPP analysts have not fully isolated the cause of that disparity, they say one factor may be the important role of Social Security in lifting people from poverty. That benefits whites most because they comprise the vast majority of today’s older Americans.

Social Security is a federal "anti-poverty" program?


OK, so if I'm a mooch when I collect Social Security in a few years, what was the federal government when they confiscated money from my paycheck over a four decade period?

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Old 10-15-2019, 05:59 PM
 
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the deplorables". The cops, the nurses, the garbagemen and maids everyone who works hard.

She didn't mean them at all. How did you get that?
She meant all Trump supporters. Maybe some of these apply, maybe some don't, It was an incredibly stupid statement by her.....
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Old 10-15-2019, 06:23 PM
 
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You are incorrect.
What am I incorrect about? That you aren't an independent?

Or are you referring to every dem presidential candidate supporting free health care for illegals? If it is that, then I am correct:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...at_debate.html

That's all I need to know about the whole lot of them. None of them would get my vote.
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Old 10-15-2019, 07:05 PM
 
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What am I incorrect about? That you aren't an independent?

Or are you referring to every dem presidential candidate supporting free health care for illegals? If it is that, then I am correct:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...at_debate.html

That's all I need to know about the whole lot of them. None of them would get my vote.

Only a Right Winger, Donald Trump, will obviously get your vote.

That “raise your hand” question was unfair because no one was allowed to expand their answer or opinion. Pete Buttigieg, for instance, later explained that illegals already get free healthcare when they go to the emergency room at any hospital in the US. Hospitals are forced by law to treat anyone who comes there for treatment. They are not allowed to turn people away.

So if an illegal person, bleeding profusely with a life-threatening injury, needed to go to a hospital or even a doctor, you would just let them die? YOU would stand there and let them bleed to death? If an illegal had a communicable disease that you or your family could catch and perhaps become quite ill, you would let that person infect any of you rather than treat them?

Come on, be practical... We have to take care of some health concerns, even of illegals. Now I figure you despise brown people coming here. We could stop the huge flow coming over the southern border, if only Donald Trump would chose to help the Central American countries control the crime and atrocities there. The Central Americans would rather stay in their own homes, if only it were safe there. They don’t want to drag their children 1,000 miles or more to the US. Trump doesn’t want to address this problem at all. Shame on him. Instead he puts little brown kids in cages. There are much better solutions.
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Old 10-15-2019, 07:32 PM
 
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I don't know if Trump can hold the disaffected working class, and Warren will sing the siren song of socialism (aka the free $hit song) to them.

By the way, I don't buy that inflation is what's hurting the working class. it's more automation and offshoring. Look at the trends in industrial output and industrial employment in the country. That tells a lot of the story.

Exactly, people don’t want to accept that the world is changing. The economy is global now. No amount of “America First” or “go it alone” will bring back jobs. We need innovative ideas to figure out new type jobs and re-training of workers so these people can perform technical and computer generated work.
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Old 10-15-2019, 08:02 PM
 
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They still support him because he's delivering on the big issues they really care about such as SCOTUS justices that support their Christian Nationalist worldview. Add to that the fact that the Democrats are on the total opposite end of the spectrum on key social issues and also the fact that the "right" people oppose Trump. Also, I don't think a lot of people understand the true depths of the desperation, despair, and anger among the Christian Right when same-sex marriage was legalized and Obama lit up the White House rainbow. That's a HUGE factor in where we are today.
Religious opinions are different for different people. The Christian Right have a different religious viewpoint than I and millions of others have. We have no National Religion in this country. Our forefathers made sure of that.

Not all Democrats agree with the far left’s opinions of some of the candidates. It is unfair that the moderate Democratic candidates are branded with the far left’s opinions because the Right focuses on those far left leaning candidates because it furthers the Right’s agenda.

Sorry that the Christian Right is unwilling to move into this century. Just because they think homosexuality is evil, doesn’t mean that they are correct. If a person researches and studies, they will see that nature produces people of different sexualities. It is not the purview of the Christian Right to set the laws for all of us. Too bad if they don’t like some of the laws of this country. It is HUGE for many gay people to be able to marry the person they love. Why is the Christian Right so selfish that they think their opinions are the only viable ones for this country? Live and let live. It doesn’t affect them, truly. Only in their selfish hearts is it a problem.

I am a “straight” person, but understand that all of God’s children deserve a happy life.

It is very surprising to me that the Religious Right support Donald Trump, who is a totally immoral man.
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Old 10-15-2019, 08:24 PM
 
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Religious opinions are different for different people. The Christian Right have a different religious viewpoint than I and millions of others have. We have no National Religion in this country. Our forefathers made sure of that.

Not all Democrats agree with the far left’s opinions of some of the candidates. It is unfair that the moderate Democratic candidates are branded with the far left’s opinions because the Right focuses on those far left leaning candidates because it furthers the Right’s agenda.

Sorry that the Christian Right is unwilling to move into this century. Just because they think homosexuality is evil, doesn’t mean that they are correct. If a person researches and studies, they will see that nature produces people of different sexualities. It is not the purview of the Christian Right to set the laws for all of us. Too bad if they don’t like some of the laws of this country. It is HUGE for many gay people to be able to marry the person they love. Why is the Christian Right so selfish that they think their opinions are the only viable ones for this country? Live and let live. It doesn’t affect them, truly. Only in their selfish hearts is it a problem.

I am a “straight” person, but understand that all of God’s children deserve a happy life.

It is very surprising to me that the Religious Right support Donald Trump, who is a totally immoral man.


They don't care about morals. They just want conservative judges appointed. They're just a bunch of hypocrites.
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Old 10-15-2019, 09:37 PM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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That is what the poster was stating, how White supporters of his are major recipients of benefits.
That was said in response to the idea suggested that white people were not thought of a being those on financial aid - Food Stamps, Medicaid.

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Any proof these white uneducated baby factories voted for Trump?

African Americans, Hispanics, and members of other races without advanced degrees confronted even higher poverty rates than working-class whites. But they didn’t gain quite as much from the federal anti-poverty programs. Although the CBPP analysts have not fully isolated the cause of that disparity, they say one factor may be the important role of Social Security in lifting people from poverty. That benefits whites most because they comprise the vast majority of today’s older Americans.

Social Security is a federal "anti-poverty" program?


OK, so if I'm a mooch when I collect Social Security in a few years, what was the federal government when they confiscated money from my paycheck over a four decade period?
We're not talking Social Security, that one would not benefit from if not having worked enough. Those not having worked may get SSI, which is different.

You're the one bringing up what you believe to be is "mooching". It appears the very ones who complain about others getting "freebies" so to speak, are amongst their own, some of whom receive benefits.

Last edited by In2itive_1; 10-15-2019 at 09:55 PM.. Reason: More, Typos.
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