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Old 04-21-2008, 09:00 AM
 
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World leaders are one thing. Terrorists and their supporters are another. He will have trouble with this if he is the nominee. Can you picture the TV ads with quotes from Chavez, Hamas, Osama, Zawahiri, and various other dictators/terrorist leaders, lending their support to Obama?

Oh, what fun that will be.
I don't get this. If you have are trouble with Sally the bully on the block, do you only to John and Marcia and Ted her neighbors and never directly speak to Sally who you are having issues with? Just because we do not recognize them as political leaders, obviously the people who put support them and keep them in power do. Seems we need to stop labeling and start talking.
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Its probably best that you don't allow a terrorist group influence your vote one-way or the other. Has it ever occured to you that the current administration, through thier middle-east policies and Iraq, has helped terrorist orginizations like Hamas, Hezbollah, and Al Queda boost their recruiting numbers and get elected to national office in Lebanon? Considering John Mcain's Middle East policy mirrors George Bush's, I wouldn't be surprised if terror orginizations are secretly hoping for another Republican. They are smart enough to know that their endorsement for Obama only helps Mcain. On the other hand, maybe they really do want Obama to win so that he will bring them into peace talks and give them international prominence and relevance.

My point is, you have no idea what their motives or intentions are, so maybe you just shouldn't take their statements into consideration.
Excellent Post.
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:09 AM
 
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It was Saudis who flew planes into the WTC. The bush family are close personal friends of the Saudis and their terrorist ruling family.
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Fort Myers Fl
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I don't get this. If you have are trouble with Sally the bully on the block, do you only to John and Marcia and Ted her neighbors and never directly speak to Sally who you are having issues with? Just because we do not recognize them as political leaders, obviously the people who put support them and keep them in power do. Seems we need to stop labeling and start talking.
I can see you do not understand radical islamist's. There is no talking to them, you either convert or die. They feel it a priviledge to die for there cause.
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:34 AM
 
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I can see you do not understand radical islamist's. There is no talking to them, you either convert or die. They feel it a priviledge to die for there cause.
I think you simplify the issue too much. People do not bite the hand that feeds them, and in many instances, the hand that feeds these people are radical. If you start listening to the people, really listening, I think you will find that they can be persuaded against the radical, if they think they can be in the mainstream. Marginalizing and ignoring a problem does nothing to make it go away or promote a new vision.
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Interesting...so this is of equal concern for you?

"On June 13, 2000, the American Muslim Alliance’s Massachusetts Chapter held a very successful fundraiser for her candidacy. Tahir Ali, the chairman of the chapter, said “we must support all who have [Muslim] interests at heart.” Perhaps conscious of how controversial the contribution would be, Hillary or someone on her staff, tried to pull a fast one, recording the donation on federal filing forms as being from the “American Museum Alliance.” But alert observers weren’t fooled and Senate candidate Clinton was forced to acknowledge who the real donor was and, four months after getting the money, she returned it.
But by then, a few weeks before the election, she had abjured the use of soft money in her Senate campaign, so the donation was, in practical terms, useless, since it was well over the limits for hard money contributions.
The Palestinian terrorists know that Hillary hears their point of view. WorldNetDaily.com reported on October 7, 2007 that leading terrorists have publicly called for her election."
Absolutely. And obviously, Hill&Bill and their supporters ( including a lot of the dem party) find it troublesome as well.
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:50 AM
 
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Absolutely. And obviously, Hill&Bill and their supporters ( including a lot of the dem party) find it troublesome as well.
Wow Just talking with Carter Hamas has said they will recognise Israel
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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maybe they really do want Obama to win so that he will bring them into peace talks and give them international prominence and relevance.
Ding, Ding Ding!! We have a winner! This is exactly what they want and what Obama, the lamb, the pacifist, the WEAK one will give them.

Terrorist don't deserve international prominence and relevancy. And certainly not given by the President of the United States.
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:57 AM
 
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Ding, Ding Ding!! We have a winner! This is exactly what they want and what Obama, the lamb, the pacifist, the WEAK one will give them.

Terrorist don't deserve international prominence and relevancy. And certainly not given by the President of the United States.
george washington shouldnt have been at any negotiating table what with poluting the Boston river !!
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Old 04-21-2008, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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I don't get this. If you have are trouble with Sally the bully on the block, do you only to John and Marcia and Ted her neighbors and never directly speak to Sally who you are having issues with? Just because we do not recognize them as political leaders, obviously the people who put support them and keep them in power do. Seems we need to stop labeling and start talking.
msaRick gave you your answer before you asked the question:
"On the other hand, maybe they really do want Obama to win so that he will bring them into peace talks and give them international prominence and relevance."

"Terrorism, in the modern sense,[2] is violence against civilians to achieve political or ideological objectives by creating fear." (Wikipedia)

By meeting with terrorist organizations, you give them international prominence and legitimise their terrorist acts.
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