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Old 04-23-2008, 10:22 AM
 
Location: part of the Matrix--for now!
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How sad for you that you think everything is about racism. Terribly sad.
Wow, you know what that's funny, because I was getting ready to say the same thing about you. Why is everything about racism for you?
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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He was opposed to it from the start like he said, and noone has been able to disprove this (you know there has been a tremendous effort to do so).
He still votes to fund the war. If he were the great uniter, he would have Republicans and Democrats pulling the funding to end the occupation.
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:33 AM
 
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We ignore all reverse racism.
No, you just ignored my post dealing with the Southern Strategy. It's been around for about 30 years and has been used with great effectiveness by the Republicans. Read this so as to stop posting dumb, ill conceived claims. Southern strategy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

People should know what they're talking about before sharing their "opinions."
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:52 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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No, you just ignored my post dealing with the Southern Strategy. It's been around for about 30 years and has been used with great effectiveness by the Republicans. Read this so as to stop posting dumb, ill conceived claims. Southern strategy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

People should know what they're talking about before sharing their "opinions."
It's simply absurd to talk about whites voting for Hillary while ignoring the African-Americans vote for Obama. Many whites have no issue with voting for Obama, but the reverse clearly isn't supported by the exit polls.

And, btw, a quick check of recent election results showing both Carter and Clinton winning presidencies and carrying southern states, will prove your entire argument flawed.
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:19 AM
 
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It's simply absurd to talk about whites voting for Hillary while ignoring the African-Americans vote for Obama. Many whites have no issue with voting for Obama, but the reverse clearly isn't supported by the exit polls.

And, btw, a quick check of recent election results showing both Carter and Clinton winning presidencies and carrying southern states, will prove your entire argument flawed.
Do you know what the "Southern Strategy" is? I'm not sure that you do, if you read that entry in Wikipedia then you would understand why so many blacks have backed Obama. It has very little--if any--to do with black racism and everything to do with white racism. As I've mentioned earlier, blacks have no problem backing white candidates, the history of black voting patterns bears this out, but the same cannot be said of the white working class; the demographic that the Southern Strategy was crafted to appeal to.

Also remember, prior to the South Carolina primary, Hillary enjoyed the support of a majority of blacks, after that everything changed.
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
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It's simply absurd to talk about whites voting for Hillary while ignoring the African-Americans vote for Obama. Many whites have no issue with voting for Obama, but the reverse clearly isn't supported by the exit polls.

And, btw, a quick check of recent election results showing both Carter and Clinton winning presidencies and carrying southern states, will prove your entire argument flawed.

I'm sorry but you seem to ignore the fact that the whites make up over 75% of the states population compared to less than 11% of A.A.
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:37 AM
 
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At the same time it can be argued that she has a huge ego and just can't deal with losing. Stretching this thing out more and more is no good for the democrats no matter how you look at it.
I would agree.

And to the original poster, Clinton has been a formidable opponent. But she started this national campaign on top and has lost ground ever since. In PA she managed to turn a 20+ point advantage into a 10 point win. She cannot win the nomination unless she somehow convinces the superDs to commit Democratic hari-kari. It has really been time for her to move on for a while now . . .
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:40 AM
 
Location: 3219'03.7"N 10643'55.9"W
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No, you just ignored my post dealing with the Southern Strategy. It's been around for about 30 years and has been used with great effectiveness by the Republicans. Read this so as to stop posting dumb, ill conceived claims. Southern strategy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

People should know what they're talking about before sharing their "opinions."
I think in general, the black population has victimized itself by voting as a 90% block for the Democrat party, which effectively marginalizes their voice in the political arena. In this case, the black population is further marginalizing its influence by casting their votes in such a large majority to a candidate that shares the same skin color. Can you blame political opponents that essentially ignore their community? For that matter, Democrat politicians don't have to campaign vigorously in any district that is majority black either, because it has been displayed over the past 60+ years the black population will vote for a ham sandwich if it has a "D" in front of it.

When the black population begins to diversify their vote in the order of the white population, only then will there be real change for the better in the inner city communities.
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I think in general, the black population has victimized itself by voting as a 90% block for the Democrat party, which effectively marginalizes their voice in the political arena. In this case, the black population is further marginalizing its influence by casting their votes in such a large majority to a candidate that shares the same skin color. Can you blame political opponents that essentially ignore their community? For that matter, Democrat politicians don't have to campaign vigorously in any district that is majority black either, because it has been displayed over the past 60+ years the black population will vote for a ham sandwich if it has a "D" in front of it.

When the black population begins to diversify their vote in the order of the white population, only then will there be real change for the better in the inner city communities.
Good post. Right on the money.
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Old 04-23-2008, 12:01 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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. . . if you read that entry in Wikipedia then you would understand why so many blacks have backed Obama. It has very little--if any--to do with black racism and everything to do with white racism. . . .
So you submit that blacks backing Obama is due to white racism. Thanks for the chuckle.
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