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Old 04-24-2008, 03:40 PM
 
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I'm a white male mid thirties and wanted Richardson for Prez. Since he is out now and now since I have to choose between the 3 chuckle heads....I probably going to go for Obama. Why? Well WTF do I have to lose at this point. I'm willing to give someone new a chance see if they can do the job and point America in the right direction. And if he can't well his a$$ will be voted out in 4 years. Granted I will be very interest to see who will be in Obama's cabinet if he's elected.
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Old 04-24-2008, 04:12 PM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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My boyfriend is white, college educated and 26 years old. He supports Hillary. And if it's between Obama and McCain this fall, he will be voting for McCain.
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Old 04-24-2008, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Wantagh NY
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My boyfriend is white, college educated and 26 years old. He supports Hillary. And if it's between Obama and McCain this fall, he will be voting for McCain.
Here it is again...and I just don't get it.
Ummm aren't Clinton and Obama on the same team?!?!?! Have you listened to ONE of the last 21 debates? It is almost a comedy watching these 2 candidates trying to find something different policy wise to talk about. Both of their plans are almost almost the SAME. Now if you look at McCains plans, they are all almost the opposite of either Democrat! You Hillary fans are so blind to see that...and to say something as silly as you would rather vote for McCain instead of Obama is ludicrous! It just doesn't make sense...

So then you may ask, then why are you so strong in supporting Obama?
My answer may surprise you. I am from NY...upstate NY to be exact (I now live on Long Island) In 2000, Hillary Clinton promised 200,000 new jobs for upstate NY. And there was a net LOSS under her tenure of 35,000-75,000 jobs. This isn't a sniper fire lie...this is much more serious. Bottom line, I don't trust her from a first hand experience. She really has a trust issue.

YouTube - Ohio Debate Bombshell: hillary security trumps US security!

With that said, I would vote for her if Obama was out. Why, because her basic ideas are the SAME as Obamas. I don't think she will accomplish many of them (look at how long she has been trying to get her health care package done) but McCain is the complete other direction. Why him???

People should vote on the issues first and foremost. Personality should always be second!
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Old 04-24-2008, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Boise
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Here it is again...and I just don't get it.
Ummm aren't Clinton and Obama on the same team?!?!?! Have you listened to ONE of the last 21 debates? It is almost a comedy watching these 2 candidates trying to find something different policy wise to talk about. Both of their plans are almost almost the SAME. Now if you look at McCains plans, they are all almost the opposite of either Democrat! You Hillary fans are so blind to see that...and to say something as silly as you would rather vote for McCain instead of Obama is ludicrous! It just doesn't make sense...

So then you may ask, then why are you so strong in supporting Obama?
My answer may surprise you. I am from NY...upstate NY to be exact (I now live on Long Island) In 2000, Hillary Clinton promised 200,000 new jobs for upstate NY. And there was a net LOSS under her tenure of 35,000-75,000 jobs. This isn't a sniper fire lie...this is much more serious. Bottom line, I don't trust her from a first hand experience. She really has a trust issue.

YouTube - Ohio Debate Bombshell: hillary security trumps US security!

With that said, I would vote for her if Obama was out. Why, because her basic ideas are the SAME as Obamas. I don't think she will accomplish many of them (look at how long she has been trying to get her health care package done) but McCain is the complete other direction. Why him???

People should vote on the issues first and foremost. Personality should always be second!

That's what you get for trusting politicians to bring you jobs. Politicians can't do it, and if they tell they will they are lying.

I agree with on people jumping parties though, I know of a lot of people who said if Ron Paul was out, they would support Obama. Doesn't make much sense. But whatever.
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Old 04-24-2008, 09:17 PM
 
Location: southern california
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i will not longer support a party that is anti white male anti religious.
i switched just needed that extra push.
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Old 04-24-2008, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Another white male for Obama checking in.
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Old 04-24-2008, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Wantagh NY
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i will not longer support a party that is anti white male anti religious.
i switched just needed that extra push.
May I ask what makes you think he is anti white male?
And what makes you think he is anti religious?
Last time I checked, Born Again Christians are pretty religious...
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Old 04-24-2008, 09:37 PM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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Here it is again...and I just don't get it.
Ummm aren't Clinton and Obama on the same team?!?!?!
We are not chained to the Democratic party. And extreme party loyalty is what's gotten our country into the mess it's in now. We need more moderates in both parties and they all need to work together. I've never been one to vote along party lines. Given the choices, our plan is to vote for the person we think will run our country the best... and we both don't think that Obama is qualified (yet) to be our president.
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Old 04-24-2008, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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We are not chained to the Democratic party. And extreme party loyalty is what's gotten our country into the mess it's in now. We need more moderates in both parties and they all need to work together. I've never been one to vote along party lines. Given the choices, our plan is to vote for the person we think will run our country the best... and we both don't think that Obama is qualified (yet) to be our president.
Who both? Are there two of you out there, miu?
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Old 04-24-2008, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Wantagh NY
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We are not chained to the Democratic party. And extreme party loyalty is what's gotten our country into the mess it's in now. We need more moderates in both parties and they all need to work together. I've never been one to vote along party lines. Given the choices, our plan is to vote for the person we think will run our country the best... and we both don't think that Obama is qualified (yet) to be our president.
OK...maybe I shouldn't have said "team" as in Democrat. What I meant was their ideas are of the same thought. Basically they share the same goals.

And yes you are absolutely right! You should pick the best candidate no matter what party!

When you say Obama isn't qualified "yet", that makes me think you wish he had more experience? I can certainly understand that...however it was one of the reason i felt he was a better choice. It seams to me, the longer these politicians are in office, the more corrupt they become! And I really have a thing against corruption. Plus I feel he is basically a smart man. Most smart people surround themselves with people whom they can count on. However I do wish I knew what VP all these candidates had in mind first. *Note my whole theory goes up in smoke with the current pres Bush. He surrounded himself with intelligence and look what it got us? I guess the difference here is I never considered GWB all that smart in the first place!

BTW the Rezko thing scared me until I looked into it some more. Basically I believe what Obama said about his relationship with him. I may be wrong...but so far, I feel he is being honest.
Here is a good read:
Obama: Rezko was 'a significant fundraiser' :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Barack Obama (http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/843582,obama031408a.article - broken link)
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