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Old 04-23-2008, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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I have a thought I wanted to throw out there. we all know that there has been record turnout to vote in the primaries. we also know that most people don't vote in the primaries. does everyone out there think that barack obama is going to be this popular, should he win the nomination, in a general election? I know he has done well in some of the southern states, but will he do this well when all the people vote? there are a lot of old school southern democrats that would never vote for someone who is mixed race. especially when he is being touted as the "black" candidate. right or wrong, this is reality. any thoughts? I am sure I am going some of those very annoying obama supporters posting in here how there are some uneducated rednecks who live in the sticks that might think that. this is reality. I am not voting in this general election because I see no difference in the three mainstream candidates.
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Jm...

This is one election where there will be a major difference between the candidates. McClain is calling for an endless war (as is Mrs. Clinton) and Obama says we will withdraw from Iraq. That is a big enough difference to get me to vote!
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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actually, mccain didn't call for an endless war. that's moveon.org propaganda.
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:01 AM
 
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actually, mccain didn't call for an endless war. that's moveon.org propaganda.
I agree, McCain never said that.
It is clear that Obama can't win the big States, so that says something.
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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he's gonna get killed by mccain.
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Old 04-23-2008, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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I agree, McCain never said that.
It is clear that Obama can't win the big States, so that says something.
He is running vs another Democrat right now. In November he will be running vs a Republican. NY, California and PA are not going to vote Republican. Obama is not Walter Mondale.
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Old 04-23-2008, 06:14 PM
 
Location: AZ
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I am not voting in this general election because I see no difference in the three mainstream candidates.

than I hope you NEVER complain about ANYTHING the winning canidate does while in presidency because you have no RIGHT to complain about something that you refused to influence in the first place...
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Old 04-23-2008, 08:59 PM
 
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He has every right to not vote and as a tax payer he has a right to compalin if he chooses.
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Old 04-23-2008, 09:02 PM
 
Location: AZ
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He has every right to not vote and as a tax payer he has a right to compalin if he chooses.
No, the fact that he isnt voting for the person who is going to be in charge of his taxs just makes it even worse. I mean write in mickey mouse if you hate all the candidates or something, but make SOME sort of political statement.
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Old 04-23-2008, 09:43 PM
 
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I posted this elsewhere -
Historical Presidential Election Information by State
Alabama - strong GOP - 9
Alaska - strong GOP - 3
Arizona - likely GOP - 10
Arkansas - leaning GOP - 6
California - leaning Dem - 55
Colorado - swing state, slightly GOP - 9
Connecticut - leaning Dem - 7
Delaware - leaning Dem - 3
D.C. - strong Dem - 3
Florida - swing state, slightly in favor of GOP now - 27
Georgia - strong GOP - 15
Hawaii - leaning Dem - 4
Idaho - strong GOP - 4
Illinois - leaning Dem - 21
Indiana - strong GOP - 11
Iowa - swing state - 7
Kansas - strong GOP - 6
Kentucky - strong GOP - 8
Louisiana - likely GOP - 9
Maine - leaning Dem - 4
Maryland - likely Dem - 10
Mass - strong Dem - 12
Michigan - swing state, very slightly Dem - 17
Minnesota - swing state, very slightly Dem - 10
Mississippi - strong GOP - 6
Missouri - leaning GOP - 11
Montana - strong GOP - 3
Nebraska - strong GOP - 5
Nevada - swing state, leaning GOP - 5
New Hampshire - swing state- 4
New Jersey - leaning Dem - 15
New Mexico - swing state - 5
New York - strong Dem - 31
North Carolina - likely GOP - 15
North Dakota - strong GOP - 3
Ohio - swing state, leaning GOP - 20
Oklahoma - strong GOP - 7
Oregon - swing state, leaning Dem - 7
Pennsylvania - swing state, leaning Dem - 21 (lots of undecideds though in last poll)
Rhode Island - strong Democrat - 4
South Carolina - strong GOP - 8
South Dakota - strong GOP - 3
Tennessee - likely GOP - 11
Texas - strong GOP - 34
Utah - strong GOP - 5
Vermont - strong Dem - 3
Virginia - leaning GOP - 13
Washington - leaning Dem - 11
West Virginia - leaning GOP - 5
Wisconsin - swing state - 10
Wyoming - strong GOP - 3

269 GOP
238 Dem
Total not counted: 26 swing state votes (Wisconsin, NM, NH, Iowa) that were dead even 50/50 according to this site. States in bold are swing states and their votes were awarded to a party unless polls were dead even.
This gave the GOP 61 more votes and the Dems 55.
In total, there are 142 votes in states considered to be "swing states".
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