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Old 04-27-2008, 06:38 PM
 
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I get lost now. Obama stated that since the rev. had retired from the Trinity church, there was no issue anymore. But why is the rev. preaching again if he is retired........ Oh, I think I get it ...it is part of the change... change is goign back and forward.....
Wow, what a judgment errors for Obama and what does he stands for....?

Why isn't he debating, isn't the presidencial race perfect for a debate and shouldn't it be about debating and discussing?
Running away doesn't do him good. I really want to know what the hope and change are standing for, but so far I haven't got any clue....
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Old 04-27-2008, 07:04 PM
 
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To answer you first question he retired as the preacher of that church.

To answer your second question. He doesn't have to debate he is in first place she is in 2nd. She refused to debate when she was in 1st for her current job. After 21 debates what is left to be said. She need the free air time to try to trip up the Obama. He's not gonna give her the opportunity and that pisses her off. Now she know how the other guy felt.
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Old 04-27-2008, 07:12 PM
 
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To answer you first question he retired as the preacher of that church.

To answer your second question. He doesn't have to debate he is in first place she is in 2nd. She refused to debate when she was in 1st for her current job. After 21 debates what is left to be said. She need the free air time to try to trip up the Obama. He's not gonna give her the opportunity and that pisses her off. Now she know how the other guy felt.
well said!!!!!!!!
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Old 04-27-2008, 07:15 PM
 
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Well IMO it makes Obama look bad, not Hillary and I'm not a fan of both but if I have to chose between these 2 I for sure would chose Hillary. She has accomplishments and is very clear about what she wants to do. Obama is not clear at all, only is mentioning hope and change and I have no clue what he means by that. The few things I did hear from Obama is so far from reality and so far and close to communism that it scares me.
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Old 04-27-2008, 07:25 PM
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Well IMO it makes Obama look bad, not Hillary and I'm not a fan of both but if I have to chose between these 2 I for sure would chose Hillary. She has accomplishments and is very clear about what she wants to do. Obama is not clear at all, only is mentioning hope and change and I have no clue what he means by that. The few things I did hear from Obama is so far from reality and so far and close to communism that it scares me.
I feel the same way. The democratic race is close. I'm a Hillary supporter that is not convinced that Obama should be president at all. More debates between the two democratic frontrunners would help me understand Obama better, perhaps in even a better light. And I feel that many others feel the same way.

This also proves that Obama knows that these debates so far have make him look bad. He seems to do best with a prepared speech format. He is avoiding any situation where he doesn't have control of the questions beforehand. As a president, he has to be able to think on his feet and he won't have time to study up for every situation. We need a president that knows his or her stuff already, not doing a race of keeping up with each crisis. He may have some great advisors to consult for each situation, but we need a knowledge leader not a head manager of some thinktank.
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Old 04-27-2008, 11:27 PM
 
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The thing is only important in that Rev Wright was his pastor for 20 years and it brings in to question Obama;'s judgement. Ohterwise as said in another thread wright is just another racist loon.
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Old 04-28-2008, 04:42 AM
 
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I feel the same way. The democratic race is close. I'm a Hillary supporter that is not convinced that Obama should be president at all. More debates between the two democratic frontrunners would help me understand Obama better, perhaps in even a better light. And I feel that many others feel the same way.

This also proves that Obama knows that these debates so far have make him look bad. He seems to do best with a prepared speech format. He is avoiding any situation where he doesn't have control of the questions beforehand. As a president, he has to be able to think on his feet and he won't have time to study up for every situation. We need a president that knows his or her stuff already, not doing a race of keeping up with each crisis. He may have some great advisors to consult for each situation, but we need a knowledge leader not a head manager of some thinktank.
You are so right. After the rev. issue when Obama let all of us wait for 25 min. to come on stage to give his speech. He left without giving anyone the chance to ask questions. To me that was showing he needs the stage to give prepared speeches. Every time he is asked questions without him knowing the question, he starts to , uhm, uhm... and than finally he gives an answer that doesn't have to do anything with the question. In many occasions he is not able to just response to what is asked!!!
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Old 04-28-2008, 05:08 AM
 
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The thing is only important in that Rev Wright was his pastor for 20 years and it brings in to question Obama;'s judgement. Ohterwise as said in another thread wright is just another racist loon.


all it shows is he doesnt throw people under the bus, even when they are wrong


Obama = inclusive

Hillary = divisive
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Old 04-28-2008, 06:06 AM
 
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Well IMO it makes Obama look bad, not Hillary and I'm not a fan of both but if I have to chose between these 2 I for sure would chose Hillary. She has accomplishments and is very clear about what she wants to do. Obama is not clear at all, only is mentioning hope and change and I have no clue what he means by that. The few things I did hear from Obama is so far from reality and so far and close to communism that it scares me.
I really don't think it makes him look bad at all. Hillary is just playing the game that she plays so well. Look back at when she was running for office and she was ahead she refused to debate too. Regarding your next statement I would say that you really are not listening are you. Their policies are almost identical. If you choose Hillary that is great but I have heard all of them speak and the democrats are both aiming pretty much at the same goal and that being the goal of the Democratic Party. McCain is following the blueprint of the Republican party. None of the candidates comes up with these plans individually. They all carry the blueprint of the Party they are associated with. Some just spin it to make it look like its their ideas. Some do this better then others. McCain is worst at doing this then both the other candidates. Sorry if I burst anyones bubble here.

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Old 04-28-2008, 07:37 AM
 
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I feel the same way. The democratic race is close. I'm a Hillary supporter that is not convinced that Obama should be president at all. More debates between the two democratic frontrunners would help me understand Obama better, perhaps in even a better light. And I feel that many others feel the same way.

This also proves that Obama knows that these debates so far have make him look bad. He seems to do best with a prepared speech format. He is avoiding any situation where he doesn't have control of the questions beforehand. As a president, he has to be able to think on his feet and he won't have time to study up for every situation. We need a president that knows his or her stuff already, not doing a race of keeping up with each crisis. He may have some great advisors to consult for each situation, but we need a knowledge leader not a head manager of some thinktank.
Obama supporters just don't get the fact that it DOES make him look bad to those of us who support Hillary and whose vote he will need come November. I don't care if he's in first place....I want to see the debates. Although I wasn't impressed at all by him during the ABC debate. He may not HAVE to debate b/c of where he is but he SHOULD if he wants the votes from Hillary supporters to go to him and not McCain. It's actually quite simple but he seems a little dense unless it's written on a cue card for him.
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