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Old 04-30-2008, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Dallas, NC
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I am not trying to offend Democrats but this primary has created more divisiveness that anything the Republicans have done in the last 7 years. If this keeps up I can't imagine what the next term will be like no matter who is elected. And this from the party with the biggest tent (allegedly).
I'm beginning to agree with you. Between the two of them, Obama and Hillary have set blacks and women so far back it's like neither group ever made any advances!
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Old 04-30-2008, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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Keith Oberman was a horrific sportscaster and an even more horrific commentator. I can't even find him funny or entertaining. He is at his best when someone else is with him or it is a panel situation. That is when he speaks the least and has some intelligence beside him to counter his absolute stupidity. JMHO
First off, it's Olbermann not "Oberman." Misspelling his name like that leads one to believe that you very rarely watch his program so your opinion of it is suspect.

Secondly, a slur against any minority group does not belong in American politics. I still have yet to hear the Clinton campaign distance itself from Easley's insult. Perhaps we are seeing how little regard she actually has for the gay community.
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Old 04-30-2008, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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I'm beginning to agree with you. Between the two of them, Obama and Hillary have set blacks and women so far back it's like neither group ever made any advances!
I am going to be completely honest here. I am for the most part conservative. I am more moderate when it comes to social issues like taking care of widows, poor, elderly. It comes from my Christian upbringing I guess. I am very disillusioned with both parties and pretty much all politicians. With the exception of JC Watts, whom has since left politics and a few others I have very little respect for our so-called public servants. That being said when Obama first surfaced I was excited to see someone that was different that the usual DC crowd. I am not saying I could have voted for him but he was a breath of fresh air. Needless to say he was vetted and the real Obama has surfaced. Once again voting will require one had to pull the lever and one to hold the nose. I am getting so tired of this. So disheartening!
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Old 04-30-2008, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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First off, it's Olbermann not "Oberman." Misspelling his name like that leads one to believe that you very rarely watch his program so your opinion of it is suspect.

Secondly, a slur against any minority group does not belong in American politics. I still have yet to hear the Clinton campaign distance itself from Easley's insult. Perhaps we are seeing how little regard she actually has for the gay community.
I do watch him but really don't care how I spell his name, not important to me. And yes I am old enough to have watched him when he was a miserable sportscaster so I know him well as a TV personality.

Secondly I am old enough to know that pansy does not mean homosexual. If the gay community has made it so, then that is there problem not mine. Like others have said, pansy has always meant whimp, coward, etc.. When I was growing up it was used mainly among friends when giving each other a bad time.

I have never in my like heard anyone claim it referred to a gay person. I grew up in SoCal where I am sure if it meant that we would know. You political correctness police need to get a life.
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Old 04-30-2008, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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I do watch him but really don't care how I spell his name, not important to me. And yes I am old enough to have watched him when he was a miserable sportscaster so I know him well as a TV personality.

Secondly I am old enough to know that pansy does not mean homosexual. If the gay community has made it so, then that is there problem not mine. Like others have said, pansy has always meant whimp, coward, etc.. When I was growing up it was used mainly among friends when giving each other a bad time.

I have never in my like heard anyone claim it referred to a gay person. I grew up in SoCal where I am sure if it meant that we would know. You political correctness police need to get a life.
I grew up in No. Cal and I'm well aware what it means. From Merriam- Webster:

2 usually disparaging : a weak or effeminate man or boy
usually disparaging
: a male homosexual

It's, quite obviously, an insult.
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Old 04-30-2008, 08:42 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I grew up in No. Cal and I'm well aware what it means. From Merriam- Webster:

2 usually disparaging : a weak or effeminate man or boy
usually disparaging : a male homosexual

It's, quite obviously, an insult.
To whom? Rocky Balboa?

Yo Hillary, we did it! One thing for sure, Obama's spent so much time ducking Hillary that he'll never be confused with Apollo Creed.
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Old 04-30-2008, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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Are you from the South? Cause here in NC, the word "pansy" does not necessarily equate to "gay." It just means a weakling - someone ineffective and wimpy. If the Gov had said - "wimp" - it would have meant the same thing. Yeah, maybe he should not have said "pansy" if that words means "gay" to the rest of you, but to us in NC, if we want to say GAY, we say GAY.

So people - don't get your panties in a wad. Or jockies. Whatever.
*****s. That's the word I hear a lot. I just don't bother responding to them. Yeah, I'm *****. I'm also happy, gay, and a bit of a pansy around spiders.

q u e e r is blocked? Now that's just *****.
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Old 04-30-2008, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Well, as a homosexual, I am not offended by that remark. That is 100% silly to be offended by. It seems like some are grasping to make people feel it is offensive. For the most part I really don't think people know or realize what they are saying until it is over. (when it comes down to sexist remarks) Now if he had demonstrated hatred before it would be one thing and I think he would have chosen better words to do it. Most of what people have to say does not upset me. I figure that they are misinformed or just plain ignorant.
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Old 04-30-2008, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Dallas, NC
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*****s. That's the word I hear a lot. I just don't bother responding to them. Yeah, I'm *****. I'm also happy, gay, and a bit of a pansy around spiders.

q u e e r is blocked? Now that's just *****.
I'm with you too on this. NC people don't use the word to mean homosexual. It has always been used to describe any person who is acting wimpy or whiny. There are way worse words I hear for gays around here and the worst starts with an f. I have a couple of good friends who are lesbians so I don't use any of those deragatory words but I honestly don't think Easley meant it this way. But at the same time, I gave Obama heck about his bitter comment, so bring it on.
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