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Old 05-05-2008, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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This morning's (5-5) Zogby tracking poll (http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1498 - broken link) has Obama leading in NC at 48%-40% and a virtual dead heat in Ind. with Obama leading 44%-42%. Some interesting findings, in NC, by Zogby show:

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Obama leads among the key demographic of voters age 35-54 by a 58% to 31% margin which is dramatically different than how that age of voter acted in Pennsylvania two weeks ago. There, Clinton won among those voters. It is also important to note that Obama has made real inroads among voters age 55-69, where Clinton wins 44% and Obama wins 43% - a statistical tie
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Old 05-05-2008, 08:43 AM
 
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This morning's (5-5) Zogby tracking poll (http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1498 - broken link) has Obama leading in NC at 48%-40% and a virtual dead heat in Ind. with Obama leading 44%-42%. Some interesting findings, in NC, by Zogby show:
Don't know much about polls so I ask does anyone know how accurate the Zogby Tracking poll is compared to the others.
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Old 05-05-2008, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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Don't know much about polls so I ask does anyone know how accurate the Zogby Tracking poll is compared to the others.
Zogby's Ind. poll looks like an outlier because the other major polls all have Clinton up 5%-7%. On the other hand the NC poll fits right in with the general consensus of Obama by 5%-11%. One thing to keep in mind, though Zogby has at times been criticized, their final poll of Pa. had Clinton by 10%, less that 1% off the final margin.
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Old 05-05-2008, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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What happened to 21%?
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Old 05-05-2008, 09:31 AM
 
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Zogby predicted the big Obama win in California.
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Old 05-05-2008, 09:41 AM
 
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What happened to 21%?
The same thing that happened to Clinton's 20+% lead in Pa. In a race such as this, as the election grows closer, things have a tendency to tighten up.
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Old 05-05-2008, 10:09 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Great news for Obama according to Zogby. I expect Obama to win NC and lose Indiana. Despite its proximity to the great state of Ill, Indiana is hick hoosier country and has more in common with the rural portions of Ohio than Ill. If Obama keeps it close there, that's good.

Whatever the results, Obama will maintain his insurmontable lead in delegate count, popular vote, and number of states won, as we go through the formalities to his inevitable nomination. What a waste of time.
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Old 05-05-2008, 10:13 AM
 
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Obama needs to win in Indiana to show he can win in a contested stae. That's the only way he seals the deal. Otherwise it's stalemate and the super delegates which will not be very good all around. He needs a clear nomination otherwise it's the old "they stole the election " because of Florida and Michigan fiasco.
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Old 05-05-2008, 10:20 AM
 
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Obama needs to win in Indiana to show he can win in a contested stae. That's the only way he seals the deal. Otherwise it's stalemate and the super delegates which will not be very good all around. He needs a clear nomination otherwise it's the old "they stole the election " because of Florida and Michigan fiasco.
The only candidate that has the potential to steal the election is Clinton as Obama has an insurmountable lead in pledged delegates.

All the candidates, including Clinton, signed a pledge regarding Fla. and Mi. Obama has stuck to it, while Hillary, in typical Clinton fashion, has attempted to circumvent the sanctions given the states by the DNC.
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Old 05-05-2008, 10:36 AM
 
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Obama needs to win in Indiana to show he can win in a contested stae. That's the only way he seals the deal. Otherwise it's stalemate and the super delegates which will not be very good all around. He needs a clear nomination otherwise it's the old "they stole the election " because of Florida and Michigan fiasco.
He doesn't need to win Indiana. He merely needs to have more delegates and be ahead in the popular vote at the end. Many of the superdelegates are simply waiting for this to happen at which time they will automatically put their vote in for the frontrunner (Obama since Super Tuesday). It's automatic.

Hillary would like you to believe that the supers are suddenly going to switch to overwhelmingly support her because of some mystical, magical, intangible notion that she's the "real" favorite because won certain states. Ludicrous. Typical Clinton delusion, out of touch with reality. Remember Bill had his own personal concept of what "it" meant that was not based in reality.

MI and FL don't count for a legitimate reasons, one that Clinton agreed to before she became desperate. MI will go Dem in the General. FL will go Republican. Case closed.
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