Would people say Obama was stupid... (voting, Clinton, McCain, African American)

[laysayfair]

Originally Posted by ndfmnlf

But should race even be A factor at all? How is the race of a candidate even relevant to his electability?

I'm just commenting on the claims you made in post #8, about "empirical data" and all...

[CLS63]

Why weren't people screaming "INEXPERIENCED!!' when George Dubya Bush was running for office?

[CLS63]

Experience doesn't equal presidential success

Check this link out:

How Good Are Experienced Presidents?

[laysayfair]

Originally Posted by CLS63

Why weren't people screaming "INEXPERIENCED!!' when George Dubya Bush was running for office?

They were.

[UB50]

Originally Posted by CLS63

Why weren't people screaming "INEXPERIENCED!!' when George Dubya Bush was running for office?

People were screaming. Bush won because he carried the religious conservatives.

[desertsun41]

He is not black !!!

I dont think his 100% white mother would like you calling her black as well as his 100% black father want to be called white.

Hey you. Stay still. When this goes out your other ear I want to catch it so I can re re re re re re re post it again next time some one says he is black again.

[100%Michigan]

Originally Posted by Magnulus

... if he were white?

What makes Obama stupid, just becaues he is "inexperienced"? You know, not too much time in Washington greasing the gears in politics, you know, like John McCain? Not alot of time as a whitehouse insider, like Hillary Clinton? Why is Obama stupid? Stupid compared to whom? To Stephen Hawking? Joe Sixpack? NASCAR dads?

Really, let's cut to the chase. Alot of Obama haters don't like him because he's black. That's the dirty little secret. "Not in my ethnic group, not gonna vote for him". And that's probably the kindest opinion some of them might have.

Give the guy a chance. Pretend he's a white guy who just happens to have some black DNA. Whatever it takes. But to call this man stupid is over the top.

I support Hillary Clinton... and if I could vote today I would vote for her. I'm not supporting Obama because of his race, or because I think he's stupid. I just think Hillary Clinton will make a better president... and that's what we want in the white house.

[NCN]

Originally Posted by Magnulus

... if he were white?

What makes Obama stupid, just becaues he is "inexperienced"? You know, not too much time in Washington greasing the gears in politics, you know, like John McCain? Not alot of time as a whitehouse insider, like Hillary Clinton? Why is Obama stupid? Stupid compared to whom? To Stephen Hawking? Joe Sixpack? NASCAR dads?

Really, let's cut to the chase. Alot of Obama haters don't like him because he's black. That's the dirty little secret. "Not in my ethnic group, not gonna vote for him". And that's probably the kindest opinion some of them might have.

Give the guy a chance. Pretend he's a white guy who just happens to have some black DNA. Whatever it takes. But to call this man stupid is over the top.

If Obama had been white, he would have been gone about the same time as Edwards. I think his religion is a bigger concern--not the one he claims to be but the one he possibly could be. I think he created this preacher thing to convince the NC voters that he is not Muslim. It was all politics. I see him and the preacher reconciling when it is convenient.

Bill Clinton put the race question in perspective a long time ago for me. The color of ones skin is only a small part of ones DNA. Certainly not enough that is should make a difference. Now culture and social is another part that can be considered. Obama just seemed to be very uncomfortable when he was in North Carolina. I wondered why? Hillary was very relaxed and had a great personality, but he acted ill at ease and strained. The North Carolina people could not have been more friendly to him.

[miu]

Originally Posted by 100%Michigan

I support Hillary Clinton... and if I could vote today I would vote for her. I'm not supporting Obama because of his race, or because I think he's stupid. I just think Hillary Clinton will make a better president... and that's what we want in the white house.

^^^ I agree wholeheartedly. Obama's race does NOT matter to me. And Hillary being a woman also doesn't matter to me. I just think that out of the three, she's the best candidate for the job.

And I've also never called him stupid, just not experienced enough to be our president.

[miu]

Originally Posted by Haaziq

Allow me to jump into this again.

Yes there are people who will vote based on race, but that doesn't mean all people will. You guys pull the race card everytime somebody doesn't agree with you. In other words...

STOP WHINING BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T LIKE OBAMA. CHOOSING HILLARY OR MCCAIN OVER OBAMA DOES NOT MAKE A PERSON A RACIST. OBAMA IS TOO LIBERAL FOR MANY PEOPLE. HE IS WAY MORE LIBERAL THAN HILLARY. THEY ARE NOT SIMILAR ON POSITIONS LIKE PEOPLE TRY TO MAKE IT LOOK, SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY PREFER ONE OVER THE OTHER. STOP CRYING.

Now you heard it from somebody black.

Thanks for your post!!!