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Old 05-22-2008, 12:34 PM
 
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"Iran doesn't pose a serious threat to us." -- Obama on 5/18/08 to the Portland latte crowd.

"Iran poses a grave threat to the US." -- Obama on 5/19/08 to a tough Montana crowd.

Priceless. By the time this is done, Kerry will look like a granite pillar of consistancy.
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Old 05-22-2008, 12:48 PM
 
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In addition, we have the Youtube/CNN tape from a debate last year - where he said he would sit down without any preconditions. I believe during the debate, Hillary clubbed him over the head with his comments.
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:11 PM
 
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In addition, we have the Youtube/CNN tape from a debate last year - where he said he would sit down without any preconditions. I believe during the debate, Hillary clubbed him over the head with his comments.
Yup, and he has now said there will be conditions, sorry "preparations" for those meetings.

He's the king of flip-floppers. I can only guess the lemmings are following him over the cliff because they're just as confused as he is.
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:47 PM
 
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It's really just another example of the arrogance we see from the Obama side. It's as if he's dismissing years of past statements from this and past administrations; and other countries and even the UN as nothing compared to what he can tell them -- as if only he possesses the intelligence to utter the magic words. Besides arrogance, it shows his utter naivete in foreign policy. . . how unsettling these meeting would be to our allies. He's not ready for primetime; he should try to run a small town first and get back to us.
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Old 05-22-2008, 02:02 PM
 
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"Iran doesn't pose a serious threat to us." -- Obama on 5/18/08 to the Portland latte crowd.

"Iran poses a grave threat to the US." -- Obama on 5/19/08 to a tough Montana crowd.

Priceless. By the time this is done, Kerry will look like a granite pillar of consistancy.
I'm happy he even had the smarts to flip flop. Look at his past senate voting record, most votes are simply "present".
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Old 05-22-2008, 02:39 PM
 
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"Iran doesn't pose a serious threat to us." -- Obama on 5/18/08 to the Portland latte crowd.

"Iran poses a grave threat to the US." -- Obama on 5/19/08 to a tough Montana crowd.

Priceless. By the time this is done, Kerry will look like a granite pillar of consistancy.
Your comparison is inexact. Kerry was a flipflopper, meaning he said whatever was politically expedient. On the other hand Obama is merely naive, saying whatever sounds good without giving it much thought. His inexperience is glaring. He sounds like a college freshman sitting in a dorm room pontificating about things he knows little about. I don't know which is worse: a cynical flipflopper or someone who is simply out of his depth.
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Old 05-22-2008, 02:42 PM
 
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Where are all his lemmings to defend this? Interesting.

Must be community kool-aid time.....
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Old 05-22-2008, 02:43 PM
 
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Where are all his lemmings to defend this? Interesting.

Must be community kool-aid time.....
You get rep for that one!!!!

Nobama 08
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Old 05-22-2008, 02:50 PM
 
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I don't know how to identify you folks - Clinton or McCain supporters or just anti-Obama supporters. Anyways, this is what you call flip-flopping?? Of course Iran doesn't pose a threat to US when compared to the former soviet union. Presently, yeah, Iran poses a grave threat. What seems to be the argument??? grave threat vs threat or grave threat vs no threat. Weird.
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Old 05-22-2008, 03:29 PM
 
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There is no argument.

This is what his wife told him to say on 5/18/08 in Portland:
"Iran doesn't pose a serious threat to us."

This is what his wife told him to say on 5/19/08 in Montana:
"Iran poses a grave threat to the US."

That, sir, is the very definition of flip-flopping. What did you come in here to argue about?

For the record, I'm a recovering liberal. I voted for the first Clinton (shudder), bought in to the whole generic "hope & change" message, which Osama, oops Obama, is merely regurgitating now. That didn't work out so well.

So, I decided to educate myself, instead of blindly believing what I was told, which is what everyone around me was doing. I read and read and read and this is were I ended up. A "non-religious conservative", or so I am told.

The bottom line is I've been on both sides and have seen how they both work. The kool-aid inference is more apt than many of you know, or will ever admit.

I'm not a huge McCain fan, but will support him by default. I believe he's the only one who will be able to get us out of the mess that is Iraq. The person who sits in that office needs to let the military do what it does and not hamstring it with political considerations. He's the only one I see having his ego in check enough to be able to do that.
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