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Old 05-29-2008, 10:36 PM
 
Location: San Antonio North
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I get the people that vote for him because he is Republican and they normally vote Republican...I just wonder how the heck he got the Republican nomination.

Where are all these people that voted for him and why did they do it?

That is what I still don't get.

He is the least like a true Republican so they think he has the best chance to win.
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Old 05-29-2008, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Orlando
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Not me! If anyone can look at the state of the nation and say they want 4 more years of it would mean you are Cheney or Rice. other than a select few I don't see the masses as having been helped in any way. If John McSame wants more of this then he has no backbone to stand for anything good!
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Old 05-29-2008, 11:11 PM
 
Location: San Antonio North
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Not me! If anyone can look at the state of the nation and say they want 4 more years of it would mean you are Cheney or Rice. other than a select few I don't see the masses as having been helped in any way. If John McSame wants more of this then he has no backbone to stand for anything good!
Yet you gave no answer as to why he is McSame so ill hold by breath. BTW am I the only one that know change only needs to happen if it is change for the better.
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Old 05-29-2008, 11:55 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I like McCain because he is a moderate, I trust him, and he won't sell us out. He has shown that he can reach across the aisle and work with the Dems. Is he my ideal president? Nope. But I can vote for him in good conscience.
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Old 05-30-2008, 01:31 AM
 
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Gee, the Republicans hated him 8 years ago, he was a scumbag that they dragged through the worst kind of mud with their lies and slander.....why do they like him now?????
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Old 05-30-2008, 04:55 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Gee, the Republicans hated him 8 years ago, he was a scumbag that they dragged through the worst kind of mud with their lies and slander.....why do they like him now?????
Because the Republicans are confused- as they usually are!
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Old 05-30-2008, 05:14 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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I like Obama's personality, maybe even his somewhat refreshing approach to foreign policy (probably more face the substance).

But, indeed, I feel that his fiscal policies, especially taxation, are a threat to hard-working, independent, responsible people (the real American dream, not insanely subsidized energy-inefficient housing and cars, or anything else so subsidized, including health insurance premiums).

I will give Obama a chance to explain his fiscal policies in detail during the presidential campaign. If he falls short of vowing on prime-time television no tax increases (on people with $200k or less per year income is acceptable), then I will definitely vote for McCain.

I find McCain neither particularly likable or unlikable, but little or no change is better than potential change for the worse.

The biggest issue facing the US right now is monetary policy (also a menace to hard-working responsible, independent people who save and want to invest in productive activities) - I realize that this is hard for most people to understand and the two remaining candidates have no clue either -, but we don't need to exacerbate it right now with cockamamie fiscal policies, especially on the taxation side.

The problem is that most people allow themselves to get caught up in red-herring issues - like gender, sex, race, counting how many angels on the head of a pin, etc., even national security and foreign policy after a certain point - that the candidates can for the most part skirt any meaningful debate on economic policy.

Regardless of what the socialists promise, ultimately it's every man for himself.

Good luck!

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Old 05-30-2008, 06:30 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Default Anybody like McCain?

I like John Mccain. I supported his candidacy eight years ago. I think that if he had been elected president in 2000, America would be much better off today.

But I won't vote for him in 2008. His stubborn support of Bush's agenda makes him unelectable.
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Old 05-30-2008, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I like John Mccain. I supported his candidacy eight years ago. I think that if he had been elected president in 2000, America would be much better off today.

But I won't vote for him in 2008. His stubborn support of Bush's agenda makes him unelectable.
110% in agreement on this one.

He turned from quasi-conservative to neo-bolshevist in 8 years.
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Old 05-30-2008, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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There are a lot of things I like about Senator McCain. One major problem for me is his economic policy and lack of credible advisor's. His Achilles heel is Senator Gramm, and if this is the extent of his knowledge and allegiance to solving the housing debacle as well as the Economy, we're obviously headed for cave man status. Forget the Great Depression, we'll need to come up with a whole new ballgame for the way this will turnout. Don't get me wrong, the President's job per se is not to solve all of the problems within the economy - but a vision for where it should be will show up via the veto pen, so we may as well know he what he envisions as the problem and his thought process for how it can be righted.

No matter what he says he will need to raise taxes. They will have to come from somewhere and with homeownership in jeopardy, the cities and States will need more tax dollars because of the reduction in this critical area of revenue. Hey, if you want to pay less taxes, make more money, otherwise you're stuck with 50% anyway. Don't believe it check your cell phone bill and see how many have slid their way in...

I'm giving him the benefit of doubt on foreign policy; however, as of yet I have seen little that impresses. I've attempted on a number of occasions to engage his supporters on the issue, and cannot seem to find any with a comprehensive take on his experience beyond sound bites and the Bush "usual". I guess this, in and of itself, is my answer - just defer to whatever the current President thinks is best.

I firmly believe in the Framers vision and foresight when it comes to the Checks and Balances, and based on this alone McCain could get the nod.
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