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Old 06-02-2008, 01:49 PM
 
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A bell tolls for Ahmadinejad

....last week's lopsided election of Ali Larijani to the powerful position of Parliament speaker.

The pragmatic [Ari] Larijani, a former chief of Iran's National Security Council and lead nuclear negotiator, has been an outspoken foe of hard-line president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. His ascension spells a promising power shift within Iran's faction-ridden political system. Larijani is very much a devotee of that system, but one who makes no secret of his belief that dialogue and deal-making with the West offer the surest means to secure Iran's national interests.

A bell tolls for Ahmadinejad - The Boston Globe

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Old 06-02-2008, 01:57 PM
 
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Iran can be dealt with diplomatically IMO if our Gov't would stop saber rattling. Before Ahmadinejad came into power (by using our taking of Iraq to fuel anti-American interest fwiw) Iran was considered a very progressive country in the middle east, with a burgeoning, educated young population expected to push for true Democracy within the decade. That can still happen, but it's been set back for sure.

Electing the guy who sang "Bomb Bomb Iran" is certainly not the right step.
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Old 06-02-2008, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Iran can be dealt with diplomatically IMO if our Gov't would stop saber rattling.
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Electing the guy who sang "Bomb Bomb Iran" is certainly not the right step.
John McCain comes across as being all about striking first, asking questions later. This is an image the Obama campaign needs to seize upon.
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Old 06-02-2008, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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Iran can be dealt with diplomatically IMO if our Gov't would stop saber rattling. Before Ahmadinejad came into power (by using our taking of Iraq to fuel anti-American interest fwiw) Iran was considered a very progressive country in the middle east, with a burgeoning, educated young population expected to push for true Democracy within the decade. That can still happen, but it's been set back for sure.

Electing the guy who sang "Bomb Bomb Iran" is certainly not the right step.
No it is not. It's the one place where I agree with Obama. I believe that our foreign policy should include more talks with leaders of nations we don't agree with. We also need to lessen the conditions on the talks. Too many forget that Ahmadeninajad is an elected official too. He also has a lot less power than the Supreme Leader.
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Old 06-02-2008, 02:38 PM
 
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I've read here and there that the Iranian people are generally sick of Ahmadinejad and are afraid of what his posturing and baiting will bring them all. This man Larijani appears to be closer to the Supreme Leader(s?) of Iran than is the current president, is well educated and has been part of the government for many years. (The Wikipedia article on him doesnt say what he was doing before 1979.)

Ali Larijani - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 06-02-2008, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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I've read here and there that the Iranian people are generally sick of Ahmadinejad and are afraid of what his posturing and baiting will bring them all.
Sounds familiar, doesn't it? Bush does his best to make nice with the people of Iran, but his facial expressions leave them scratching their heads.
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Old 06-02-2008, 04:49 PM
 
Location: South Fla
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A bell tolls for Ahmadinejad

....last week's lopsided election of Ali Larijani to the powerful position of Parliament speaker.

The pragmatic [Ari] Larijani, a former chief of Iran's National Security Council and lead nuclear negotiator, has been an outspoken foe of hard-line president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. His ascension spells a promising power shift within Iran's faction-ridden political system. Larijani is very much a devotee of that system, but one who makes no secret of his belief that dialogue and deal-making with the West offer the surest means to secure Iran's national interests.

A bell tolls for Ahmadinejad - The Boston Globe
I think this just drives home the point that lasting change comes from the within, the people of the country are the ones who will decide how much they will take and when they are fed up, change will occur.
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Old 06-02-2008, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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A bell tolls for Ahmadinejad

....last week's lopsided election of Ali Larijani to the powerful position of Parliament speaker.

The pragmatic [Ari] Larijani, a former chief of Iran's National Security Council and lead nuclear negotiator, has been an outspoken foe of hard-line president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. His ascension spells a promising power shift within Iran's faction-ridden political system. Larijani is very much a devotee of that system, but one who makes no secret of his belief that dialogue and deal-making with the West offer the surest means to secure Iran's national interests.

A bell tolls for Ahmadinejad - The Boston Globe
We should support his candidacy but behind the scenes. Most of the Iranian people do not hate the United States and would like to have good relations. They have forgiven the Shah and our role in that. We should take advantage of this and reach out and support more moderate candidates in Iran- without being too obvious. Hopefully President Obama will get some good changes there.
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