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Old 06-02-2008, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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More striking is Obama’s sin of omission. In the rest of the speech, he goes on to detail — at some length — the “so many ways to serve” that are available “at this defining moment in our history.” There’s the Peace Corps, there’s renewable energy, there’s education, there’s poverty — there are all kinds of causes you can take up “should you take the path of service.”

But there’s one obvious path of service Obama doesn’t recommend — or even mention: military service. He does mention war twice: “At a time of war, we need you to work for peace.” And, we face “big challenges like war and recession.” But there’s nothing about serving your country in uniform.
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Old 06-02-2008, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Texas
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William Kristol is a leading neocon chickenhawk. He thinks so much of the military that he avoided it entirely, yet he's all in favor of Bush's war. The war that has degraded our military capability over the past five plus years.

Bill Kristol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 06-02-2008, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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It's funny that Bill Kristol would talk about "inflation adjusted" dollars as if it's something we have to accept.

As for the rest, Obama has also never discussed what he thinks about Leprechauns wearing blue on St. Patrick's Day. Why must he offer so much disdain for the blue Leprechauns?

Give me a break. Kristol has a horrible track record of prediction. He was the pig-tailed cheerleader in the run up to the war. His assertions and thought process has been shown to be more severely flawed than anything Obama has ever said, done, or even thought. I wouldn't listen to Kristol if he told me my hair was on fire.
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Old 06-02-2008, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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Barack Obama thinks highly enough of them to vote in favor of the GI Bill. John McCain voted against it because he believes its too generous to veterans.


YouTube - Obama Hits McCain On G.I. Bill


Oh, and Bill Cristol is a GOP propagandist whose blasted democrats for years and years.
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Old 06-02-2008, 03:35 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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I wouldn't listen to Kristol if he told me my hair was on fire.
Tooooooo funny!

Ken
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Old 06-02-2008, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Barack Obama thinks highly enough of them to vote in favor of the GI Bill
He also voted twice against funding the troops, which will kill him in the fall. Didn't he learn anything from Sen. John "I voted for it before I voted against it" Kerry?

It was Obama's words, his speech. Kristol just offers a critique of his speech.

What a dufus he is. Obama that is.
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Old 06-02-2008, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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He also voted twice against funding the troops, which will kill him in the fall. Didn't he learn anything from Sen. John "I voted for it before I voted against it" Kerry?

It was Obama's words, his speech. Kristol just offers a critique of his speech.

What a dufus he is. Obama that is.
Those who don't support the war want more Democrats to vote against funding the war. It's the only way Congress can end it. The only people who will be bothered by that are McCain supporters.
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Old 06-02-2008, 03:57 PM
 
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washingtonpost.com

Try this.
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Old 06-02-2008, 03:57 PM
 
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He also voted twice against funding the troops, which will kill him in the fall.
Senator Barack Obama yesterday defended his votes on behalf of funding the Iraq war, asserting that he has always made clear that he supports funding for US troops despite his consistent opposition to the war.

"I have been very clear even as a candidate that, once we were in, that we were going to have some responsibility to make it work as best we could, and more importantly that our troops had the best resources they needed to get home safely," Obama, an Illinois Democrat, told reporters in a conference call. "So I don't think there is any contradiction there."

Obama defends votes in favor of Iraq funding - The Boston Globe
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Old 06-02-2008, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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He also voted twice against funding the troops, which will kill him in the fall.
He voted against them because they included no withdrawal dates and and I fully support his opposition.

Good for him.

John McCain however offers a strange reason for oppossing the GI Bill. Apparently he thinks its too generous and will cause people in the military to opt for getting an education instead of becoming non-commissioned officers.

Education and a good civilian life, Bad.
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