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Unread 06-03-2008, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA
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Default Obama and the Death of Clintonism

This is an interesting read about Obama's emergence and the end of Clinton politics. Time for this country to move forward, away not only from Bush and the Neocons and their disastrous policies, but also the Clintons.

Obama and the death of Clintonism. - By John Dickerson - Slate Magazine

Time for CHANGE!
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Unread 06-03-2008, 06:24 PM
 
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Barack O'bama is just the new, more left version of Bill Clinton 1.0.
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Unread 06-03-2008, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Well, I guess if he's all about "change" and eschews anyone with experience, then he's going to distance himself from the Kennedys, Kerry, Carter, Gore, anyone named Rockefeller or Roosevelt, the list goes on. Right?

That whole "dynasty" argument is extraordinarily stupid when Obama's wrapped his arms around the Kennedys.
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Unread 06-03-2008, 07:41 PM
 
Location: South Seattle Suburbs
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Time for this country to move forward, away not only from Bush and the Neocons and their disastrous policies, but also the Clintons.
Amen to THAT!!!!
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Unread 06-03-2008, 07:42 PM
 
Location: South Seattle Suburbs
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Barack O'bama is just the new, more left version of Bill Clinton 1.0.
Fiscally speaking, Bill Clinton was more conservative than Dubya.
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Unread 06-03-2008, 07:43 PM
 
Location: ***Spokane***
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Well, I guess if he's all about "change" and eschews anyone with experience, then he's going to distance himself from the Kennedys, Kerry, Carter, Gore, anyone named Rockefeller or Roosevelt, the list goes on. Right?

That whole "dynasty" argument is extraordinarily stupid when Obama's wrapped his arms around the Kennedys.
Yes talk is so easy, just move your lips, a baby does that just fine, but action is what America needs and NOW..and a Leader of Leaders, Obama is surely not that.
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Unread 06-03-2008, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I don't know, but that didn't sound like anything close to a concession speech. Call me crazy, but I still think she plans to take it to the credentials committee and the floor of the convention.

Ahh, Hill&Bill, you never disappoint.
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Unread 06-03-2008, 09:11 PM
 
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She still controls a large part of the democratic vote and he has to have her FULL support to have any chance to win at all.Without it he is sunk as a general elction candidate.If he had the same results in a general elction as he has aginst cliton he woudl have lost big time in the electorial college and likely the popular vote. If her supports stay home or crossover by even 10% he loses the election. She may not be able to convince many to support Obama after they have been called dumb ;uneducated and hillbillies just to name a few names.
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