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Obama is going to win by Reagan/Mondale proportions IF he does not choose Hillary as Vice President. I think we underestimate the pissed off at Bush Republican vote.
Obama is going to win by Reagan/Mondale proportions IF he does not choose Hillary as Vice President. I think we underestimate the pissed off at Bush Republican vote.
As a person who doesn't like both candidates and their parties, my objective opinion is that McCain is PROBABLY the favorite right now. Once the GOP propaganda machine gets rolling, he'll take some votes. The GOP propagandists are just flat out superior to the Dem propagandists. They were able to paint GWB as a Washington outsider back in 2000. If Obama gets a VP candidate that can appeal to rural, blue collar voters he stands a much better chance. Depending on the person, he may wind up being the favorite.
Obama cant win without blue collar vote and he completely dissed them while rubbing elbows with the elitists in san fran. And that says nothing about Wright, phluger, ayers and Rezko. He's going to be dragged through the dirt bigtime starting in about
Well shoot, it's one of those Irish gambling sites and you can only buy contracts (AFAICS -?). I love all the topics you can bet on though. "USA and/or Israel to execute an overt Air Strike against Iran by 30 Sep 2008."
We are all going to lose come November, neither are worthy of the job.
One is a globalist tax and steal looney man ( Nobama ) and the other is too liberal ( McCain ) for me.
The only bet I will place at this time in this race since it is really only 2 days old is that the dirty laundry of Obama hasnt come out yet. In the end those of us who see right through this man will say "I told ya so".
Obama cant win without blue collar vote and he completely dissed them while rubbing elbows with the elitists in san fran. And that says nothing about Wright, phluger, ayers and Rezko. He's going to be dragged through the dirt bigtime starting in about
oh I'd say
mid September
:::snicker:::
That's what people don't seem to understand. And I can speak for Appalachians, at least. I know and live with them. As a people, we don't buy into the hipster-directed, feel good, sugar coated "let's change the WORLD" bull****. We know Obama isn't going to change anything in a meaningful way because, frankly, the man is a politician. To Appalachians, a Clinton or McCain comes off as more down to Earth and less pipedream directed. There is no reason for us to buy into any of it. For centuries, we've been marginalized and forgotten. Other minorities get affirmative action. We get ****. It's still acceptable to hold a prejudiced view of us. I go to New York or Philadelphia and they hear my accent, they instantly think I'm retarded. They talk extremely slowly and deliberately to me as if I barely have the capacity to speak English. It's incredibly frustrating because nobody takes your intellectual abilities seriously based upon a preconceived notion of my "people". Stupid, barefoot, and subhuman.
Politically, nothing has changed, and we have more than enough reason to think nothing will change. If it wasn't for Robert C. Byrd and his trillions in pork over the years, God knows what this state and region would look like. We just get abused. The most intrinsically resource rich state in the nation with trillions of tons of coal - a natural resource that is the fuel for 50% of the American power grid. What do we have to show for it? Nothing. The money is all sent out of state.
The federal government has forgotten about us. The media, too. There isn't an HBO series like The Wire that shows how rough it is here as The Wire did for inner-city Baltimore. Poor, white, behind the mountains..out of sight.
And then comes along a young, populist politician that promises reform. Yeah, he's black. How much that fact has been blown out of proportion cracks me up every day. But we see him as just like every other politician running against an incumbent since the beginning of time. He talks a mean game, but we all doubt he will deliver. He might fight for change in cities, but he will not help poor white Appalachians. We aren't seen as oppressed enough or something. The view of us during the West Virginia and Kentucky brought out in the media and especially on the internet where people are more apt to show their TRUE beliefs is enough for us to know how much good and "change" these candidates offer. Everyone still hates us and thinks we aren't worth a dime.
Add that to Obamas comments about how weak and pathetic the hill folk are for loving guns and religion (I'm an atheist, but I RESPECT a man's right to cling to religion as a support mechanism.) Of course "liberal" and "conservative" are religions in and of themselves. Looking at it with a critical eye reveals great hypocrisy in that statement. But, whatever, nobody looks at ideologies with a critical eye, anyway. It's perfectly acceptable to describe your entire sociological ideology with a simple word in this country. I'm a liberal...I'm a conservative...I'm a this...I'm a that. It's all bull****. Nobody thinks for themselves.
So to hell with Obama and to hell with McCain. Come get me when a man with a brain and a true altruistic vision is a viable candidate. I might care enough to actually support a candidate then.
I live in one of two congressional districts in this country that still mine iron ore. The areas economic situation has always been weak and we survive on minimum wage and piling lumber at the sawmill. You would be surprised how many Americans live just like the coal mining folk in Applacia. While McCain is far from the answer for the blue collar vote at least he isnt an insulting ******* like obama
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