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Old 06-06-2008, 07:47 PM
 
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Reuters shows Obama winning... I think it's still too early for definitive polls.

Agreed, polls are useless until the debates start, I just hope they allow Bob Barr to join (libertarian, most likely the 3.5 Other)
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Old 06-06-2008, 08:44 PM
 
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Obama is winning in Iran too !
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Old 06-06-2008, 09:29 PM
 
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Yeah, I know.. absolutely no science in the results, just an interesting poll.

Obama 48%, McCain 52%
Obama winning 16 states, (large ones of NY and CA)
McCain winning 34 states (large ones of PA, FL, TX)

AOL Straw Poll: June 5 - June 13 - Political Machine
aol Straw Poll had ron paul winning the gop primary by a huge margin.
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Old 06-06-2008, 11:19 PM
 
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I'll start paying attention to state polling after the convention when the candidates usually get a bump. Kerry got an unusually small one. Here's another view on polling. The analyst is using real clear politics polling from the last six weeks. I'll save it to compare after the election.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/06/op...gewanted=print

...if the general election were held today, Barack Obama would lose to John McCain, while Mr. McCain would lose to Mrs. Clinton.

This conclusion comes not from wishful thinking but from a new method of analysis on the statistics of polls that has been accepted for publication in the journal Mathematical and Computer Modeling. The authors, J. Richard Gott III, a professor at Princeton, and Wes Colley, a researcher at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, are not political scientists. They are astrophysicists. And one of the tasks of scientists is to clarify the apparent complexity of the universe by using the language of mathematics.

Here’s what they discovered: in swing states, the median result of all the polls conducted in the weeks prior to an election is an especially effective predictor of which candidate will win that election — even in states where the polls consistently fall within the margin of error.
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Old 06-06-2008, 11:31 PM
 
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I'll start paying attention to state polling after the convention when the candidates usually get a bump. Kerry got an unusually small one. Here's another view on polling. The analyst is using real clear politics polling from the last six weeks. I'll save it to compare after the election.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/06/op...gewanted=print

...if the general election were held today, Barack Obama would lose to John McCain, while Mr. McCain would lose to Mrs. Clinton.

This conclusion comes not from wishful thinking but from a new method of analysis on the statistics of polls that has been accepted for publication in the journal Mathematical and Computer Modeling. The authors, J. Richard Gott III, a professor at Princeton, and Wes Colley, a researcher at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, are not political scientists. They are astrophysicists. And one of the tasks of scientists is to clarify the apparent complexity of the universe by using the language of mathematics.

Here’s what they discovered: in swing states, the median result of all the polls conducted in the weeks prior to an election is an especially effective predictor of which candidate will win that election — even in states where the polls consistently fall within the margin of error.

According to Rasmussen, using date showing who's beating who in swing states, they have concluded, using the same methods stock traders use, that Obama has a 62% chance of winning.

Rasmussen Reportsâ„¢: The most comprehensive public opinion coverage ever provided for a presidential election. (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll - broken link)

With things this early on, it is impossible to tell for sure what will happen. However, keep in mind that the Democrats have ALREADY WON several special elections, including one in Mississippi that has not gone Republican for fifteen years. Why?...massive black turnout. If that trend continues, states like Georgia might come into play.
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Old 06-06-2008, 11:51 PM
 
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no no no, god bless america, nono i mean its not true , read this

Op-Ed Contributor - Vote by Numbers - Op-Ed - NYTimes.com
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Old 06-06-2008, 11:54 PM
 
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Agreed, polls are useless until the debates start, I just hope they allow Bob Barr to join (libertarian, most likely the 3.5 Other)

so far from election and on national polls no way .... rememeber, national polls hardly mean anything, it is by state.
anyway, the real stuff on this article
Op-Ed Contributor - Vote by Numbers - Op-Ed - NYTimes.com
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Old 06-07-2008, 01:49 AM
 
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This is the same poll that Ron Paul won week after week. It is not reliable at all.
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Old 06-07-2008, 02:13 AM
 
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Interesting...On CNN last night I saw the poll and it clearly showed McCain trailing behind Obama by 4 points.
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Old 06-07-2008, 02:44 AM
 
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Maybe older people took this poll - they are still using AOL...get with the times!
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