Poll: Democrats satisfied with Obama as nominee, Republicans not happy with McCain

[Majordomo]

Originally Posted by Upton

You may not agree with the views of Obama, but at least he hasn't changed his mind on virtually every major issue. McCain's flip flopping, for the sake of political expediency, is not only disappointing but it indicates a man with distinct character flaws.

1. Special interests In January, the Obama campaign described union contributions to the campaigns of Clinton and John Edwards as "special interest" money. Obama changed his tune as he began gathering his own union endorsements. He now refers respectfully to unions as the representatives of "working people" and says he is "thrilled" by their support.

2. Public financing Obama replied "yes" in September 2007 when asked if he would agree to public financing of the presidential election if his GOP opponent did the same. Obama has now attached several conditions to such an agreement, including regulating spending by outside groups. His spokesman says the candidate never committed himself on the matter.

3. The Cuba embargo In January 2004, Obama said it was time "to end the embargo with Cuba" because it had "utterly failed in the effort to overthrow Castro." Speaking to a Cuban American audience in Miami in August 2007, he said he would not "take off the embargo" as president because it is "an important inducement for change."

4. Illegal immigration In a March 2004 questionnaire, Obama was asked if the government should "crack down on businesses that hire illegal immigrants." He replied "Oppose." In a Jan. 31, 2008, televised debate, he said that "we do have to crack down on those employers that are taking advantage of the situation."

5. Decriminalization of marijuana While running for the U.S. Senate in January 2004, Obama told Illinois college students that he supported eliminating criminal penalties for marijuana use. In the Oct. 30, 2007, presidential debate, he joined other Democratic candidates in opposing the decriminalization of marijuana.

6. America cannot afford to withdraw immediately (from Iraq), said Obama, an early opponent of invading Iraq. That would create more chaos in Iraq and make it "an extraordinary hotbed of terrorist activity," he said at a meeting of the Illinois News Broadcasters Association. It would also damage America's international prestige and amount to "a slap in the face" to the troops fighting there, he said. Wills also reported that Obama, at the time, was open to a temporary increase in the number of troops in Iraq.

7. August 1, 2007 (ABC News) - In a strikingly bold speech about terrorism scheduled for this morning, Democratic presidential candidate Illinois Sen. Barack Obama will call not only for a withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, but a redeployment of troops into Afghanistan and even Pakistan with or without the permission of Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf.


There are plenty of other issues Obama flip flops on. Obama is more of the same. It seems his supporters are too starstruck to listen to what he is actually saying.

[.....think]

Originally Posted by trzlucky

Shocking....Obama is a liberal through and through that tows the party line. McCain is a conservativ, but is willing to buck the party when he thinks they are wrong.

This is a joke Right. If your trying to say Democrats in general won't go against its party Blill Clinton in his first term did just that. Unlike G W bush he refused to veto 1 spending bill. Obama is just like more because he is fresh is a new beginning to the dumbass 8 years we had. He isn't a populist he is stright up he has never fliped floped listen to some of his interviews, even some of questions which someone will stop and wish not to awnser. He will awnser it. Mccain on the other hand is a populist. He says he will lower gas taxes which will just hurt our econmey even more (most republicans that are in office agree and don't like this plan) he says he will veto all earmarks while in the 20+ years he was in office there has been countless.

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[TuborgP]

Originally Posted by .....think

This is a joke Right. If your trying to say Democrats in general won't go against its party Blill Clinton in his first term did just that. Unlike G W bush he refused to veto 1 spending bill. Obama is just like more because he is fresh is a new beginning to the dumbass 8 years we had. He isn't a populist he is stright up he has never fliped floped listen to some of his interviews, even some of questions which someone will stop and wish not to awnser. He will awnser it. Mccain on the other hand is a populist. He says he will lower gas taxes which will just hurt our econmey even more (most republicans that are in office agree and don't like this plan) he says he will veto all earmarks while in the 20+ years he was in office there has been countless.

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Perhaps McCain's independence is hurting him within his party. For him the challenge might well be to convince independents that he is one of them in fact and not just rhetoric. Hopefully he will reject RNC money and solicit only from other independents.