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It was the Dems that wanted it originally, they set aside 1.5 million acres but President Clinton vetoed the bill because, he said, "the coastal plain was the biological heart of the ANWR and exploration or development would ruin the 'pristine' area". We will probably have to drill there unless we come up with alternatives to oil.
What "pristine" area? it is basically barren land.
I skipped to the end and didn't read this entire thread.
I just wanted to add something that a lot of people in the non-oil drilling areas aren't aware of: Here in California, where they have drilled in the ocean south of Long Beach, they've disguised the oil drilling rigs as tropical islands. They are actually kind of exotic looking and if you are standing on the beach, you aren't sure exactly what they are. I don't know if boats can stop at them or not, but they look sort of like Egyptian style tropical islands. They are NOT an eyesore at all. Like I said, they are actually interesting looking. I also understand that they have been able to attract various types of undersea life, kind of like artificial reefs, and that's interesting too.
Anyway, outside of the "most" fascinating coastline (which California has some of), I don't find offshore drilling a problem. I don't especially want to see them drill offshore in Monterey because of the seal, sea lions, otters, shark and whale populations but other areas I don't see as being as problematic.
I'm probably in the minority, but offshore drilling isn't that bad around here. (Of course, California doesn't get hurricanes either...)
Where do you think all of the grant research money has been going?
I don't know. In terms of fuel economy, no gasoline-powered car assembled in North America would meet China's current fuel-efficiency standard.
But it is encouraging that In 2007, the 55 mpg Toyota Prius outsold the top-selling SUV, the 17 mpg Ford Explorer.
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Isn't China already drilling of the coast of Florida?
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Yes. And where are all the "oil spills?"
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Oh well, what the hell. If China is drilling 50-60 miles off the Florida coast under Cuba, why not go ahead and drill before they tap it all?
''China is not drilling in Cuba's Gulf of Mexico waters, period,'' said Jorge Piñon, an energy expert at the University of Miami's Center for Hemispheric Policy. (broken link)
Obama will fall 5% or more in the poll's while the Democratic convention is being held. The left will think their time has come and the platforms battles will turn people off. Can you imagine the party debating on national tv the merits of nationalizing the oil companies? Clinton said that to appease the environmental wing of the party at a time when she was battling Obama and they were each competing for the liberal left wing of the party. Yes there can be a liberal moderated wing of the party.
Me thinks the GOP will lose FL with this policy. Nobody likes oily water. See Galveston, TX.
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After hearing the views of both McCain and Obama, most Florida voters agreed with McCain--61% said it was likely that offshore drilling would reduce gas prices. Only 34% disagreed and said that offshore drilling would not accomplish that goal.
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Actually drilling in the Gulf will reduce the possibility of an oil spill because all the oil spills in the United States to date were from tankers, not off shore drilling platforms.
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Even during hurricane Katrina, when over 1,000 platforms were displaced, not one drop of oil was spilled.
Me thinks the GOP will lose FL with this policy. Nobody likes oily water. See Galveston, TX.
That's silt from the Mississippi River, not oil.
I am not some kind of frothing-at-the-mouth environmentalist, and we can use another oil refinery or two, but drilling for new oil at this point is useless. It's time for something new, and we don't have to "come up with it." All we have to do is demand that the government listen to the people more than the oil companies who are the only ones guaranteed to gain anything out of new drilling.
Whether or not oil ever gets spilled in a hurricane, this environ/wacko (and Florida voter) thinks off shore drilling is a stupid and short-sighted idea, and I certainly would not want to pay for this kind of damage. Oil spills do happen, and not just with tankers.
Why does Europe have such efficient mass transit? Because their fuel is so expensive.
I realize that our country is a lot bigger than, say, Spain or Italy.
Our wide open spaces have different requirements.
However, I think we as a nation have the resources to come up with some new ideas.
This comes off as hyperbole, but think about it: in 1961, JFK said "We choose to go to the moon." In 1969, we went to the moon.
Surely we can now figure out some new strategies, develop new ideas--and maybe create new jobs while we're at it?
This comes off as hyperbole, but think about it: in 1961, JFK said "We choose to go to the moon." In 1969, we went to the moon.
Nope - not hyperbole - very applicable.
Since fuel is now expensive here, we need more mass transit. It's pretty simple. Here in Houston where the car is traditionally king, the buses and light rail are more crowded than ever. The new rail lines can't come sooner.
Adapt and evolve or be left behind.
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