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Old 06-23-2008, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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seems like some just troll the web blogs every day for mud to throw at Obama, hoping something will stick.
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Old 06-23-2008, 09:51 AM
 
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Obama foreign policy adviser Greg Craig represented Elian's father in the custody dispute that returned the child to the communist island. Eric Holder, a member of Obama's vice-presidential selection team, was deputy U.S. attorney general in Bill Clinton's administration when government agents seized Elian from his relatives' home in Miami's Little Havana.

What happened to Obama's pledge of "Change", sure sounds like he is using the same politicians of the past.
Well there is change and then there is desperation and this posted association is most definitely desperate.

Obama is a human, so no change for the norm right? Obama is a member of the Senate, so thus a politician, again, no change. Obama eats food and breaths air... no change... the list just goes on and on!
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Old 06-23-2008, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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Exactly. Elian just pledged his support to Castro. Pic of 14 yr. old Elian included in report.

http://www.propeller.com/viewstory/2...%2F&frame=true
He's a good looking kid! Boy, nobody can just admit that Elian Gonzales is probably happier in Cuba.
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Old 06-23-2008, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Obama is a member of the Senate, so thus a politician, again, no change.
We know this is true, well most of us do. However, Obama has put himself out there as a "different" kind of politician. New and fresh and clean.

So any opportunity to debunk this facade is fair game and hardly desperate.
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Old 06-23-2008, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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He's a good looking kid! Boy, nobody can just admit that Elian Gonzales is probably happier in Cuba.
Yeah. He's probably getting better medical care than would over here.
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Old 06-23-2008, 10:36 AM
 
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We know this is true, well most of us do. However, Obama has put himself out there as a "different" kind of politician. New and fresh and clean.

So any opportunity to debunk this facade is fair game and hardly desperate.
Debunk away, I'm all for it. However using the OP's assertions in this example is quite frankly desperate. This ranks right up there with Obama being a secret radical Muslim from a sleeper cell in a Connecticut suburb that is converting protestant gentiles to become suicide bombers.

Whats next, Obama lit the match that burned Waco too?
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Old 06-23-2008, 10:42 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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seems like some just troll the web blogs every day for mud to throw at Obama, hoping something will stick.
I agree. It is frankly a shame to read. Certainly a clear sign of enormous desperation on the part of anti-Obama people.

McCain supporters can't focus on promoting the strengths of their candidate because he has none.
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Old 06-23-2008, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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no it isn't. it's just an article in the LA times.

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I agree. It is frankly a shame to read. Certainly a clear sign of enormous desperation on the part of anti-Obama people.

McCain supporters can't focus on promoting the strengths of their candidate because he has none.
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Old 06-23-2008, 10:47 AM
 
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The use of guns could've been avoided if the relatives would have complied. Just because we don't like communism doesn't mean we have the right to rip a child from the closest family he knows. That's just sick..
I was all for the boy going back to his father, but the question is, was that much force needed to get a 5 year old? I see Children services in the USA take children with nothing more then a piece of paper and a police officer standing nearby, but to bring in assault weapons to get a 5 year old, and the use of force on Waco Texas etc, I'm left wondering if excessive force was a pattern.

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Old 06-23-2008, 10:49 AM
 
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Well there is change and then there is desperation and this posted association is most definitely desperate.
so now any association of Republicans are also off limit or is it just associations of Democrats?
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