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View Poll Results: Is Nader telling the truth on this video about Barack Hussein Obama???
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Yes! Nader is 100% right! Obama is a fraud, a corporate puppy, a sell-out!
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NO! Nader lies!! Obama is a saint and he is a "different" kinda politician.
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06-25-2008, 06:59 PM
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Aren't conservatives saying he is going to give it away to the poor now they ask what has he done for the poor. Hmmmmm very interesting.
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06-25-2008, 07:02 PM
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Location: Chicagoland
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Aren't conservatives saying he is going to give it away to the poor now they ask what has he done for the poor. Hmmmmm very interesting.
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Give what away?
I'm talking about what he has done, as a Senator, to curb/stop predatory lending practices that target the poor. Especially in Chicago.
What has he done as a state senator? As a member of congress?
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06-26-2008, 06:32 AM
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Location: Charlotte
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Ah, nice try. The question was NOT what Nader has done, the question was what has Obama done for the poor predated by scam lending practices. Nader is not in the legislature, is he? Obama is. Years in the state senate and 4 in the Senate.
Show me what Obama has done for his "brothers". Show me where Nader is wrong about that and also about Obama's "Non lobbyists".
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Can you provide verifiable proof of Mr. Nader's progress in addressing the concerns of the poor? Do you have examples of legislation or law that he has pushed through that show his success on the platform he has chosen in the article?
The presumption of the attack is that he has done what Senator Obama has not. So show what he has done, or, perhaps we should chalk it up to political posturing for free press.
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06-26-2008, 08:05 AM
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Oh my. Look at the Obamatons try and spin out of this charge.
Can ANY of you REFUTE what Nader is saying about Obama?
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Read what Nader said and not the heading of this thread. Yes Obama is a suit so to speak. He is professional, he is well educated and he is focused on family and moving forward. He is not street focused only on Black issues and poverty and bad mouthing whitey. I know I know Reverend Wright. Nader would love and promote Wright as being real and in touch with the brothers on the street.
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06-26-2008, 08:10 AM
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Nader's Obama remarks draw fire - The Boston Globe
Isn't the following quote from Nader exactly what Black kids getting straight A's in school are told to bring them down to street level. "You acting White Man get real and be a brother". This should be a ringing endorsement that Obama is mainstream and not Sharpton in an expensive suit. Yes Obama went to Harvard and is well educated why should we be asked to defend that? Yes it is true, true and very true.
There's only one thing different about Barack Obama when it comes to being a Democratic presidential candidate. He's half African-American," Nader said in what the Denver newspaper described as a wide-ranging interview. "Whether that will make any difference, I don't know. I haven't heard him have a strong crackdown on economic exploitation in the ghettos. Payday loans, predatory lending, asbestos, lead. What's keeping him from doing that? Is it because he wants to talk white?"
Nader added: "I mean, first of all, the number one thing that a black American politician aspiring to the presidency should be [doing] is to candidly describe the plight of the poor, especially in the inner cities and the rural areas. . . . Haven't heard a thing.
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06-26-2008, 09:10 AM
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Location: Chicagoland
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Can you provide verifiable proof of Mr. Nader's progress in addressing the concerns of the poor? Do you have examples of legislation or law that he has pushed through that show his success on the platform he has chosen in the article?
The presumption of the attack is that he has done what Senator Obama has not. So show what he has done, or, perhaps we should chalk it up to political posturing for free press.
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So, that's a no? NO evidence that Obama has done anything for his brothers regarding unethical lending practices that prey on the poor?
Again, nice try at a deflection, but very, very transparent. Nader is not a legislature, Obama is.
Come,on! There is NOTHING in his record as a state senator, either?
Perhaps because he was talking money from financial institutions?
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06-26-2008, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by sanrene
Ah, nice try. The question was NOT what Nader has done, the question was what has Obama done for the poor predated by scam lending practices. Nader is not in the legislature, is he? Obama is. Years in the state senate and 4 in the Senate.
Show me what Obama has done for his "brothers". Show me where Nader is wrong about that and also about Obama's "Non lobbyists".
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If Nader is questioning what Obama will do for the poor then Nader needs to let American poor knows what he will do for them.
He is one sided.
Nader is a old man who is just fealous that Americans both white/Black/rich/poor/middle class are supporting Obama.
I think Nader can not believe that a Black man will become the next PRESIDENT OF AMERICA.
GO Abama make history.
You can either be apart of history or you can make history and Obama is making history.
Show me what Nader has done for Poor whites.
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06-26-2008, 09:33 AM
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Location: Charlotte
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Originally Posted by sanrene
So, that's a no? NO evidence that Obama has done anything for his brothers regarding unethical lending practices that prey on the poor?
Again, nice try at a deflection, but very, very transparent. Nader is not a legislature, Obama is.
Come,on! There is NOTHING in his record as a state senator, either?
Perhaps because he was talking money from financial institutions?
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Actually I said yes. I find it interesting your newfound support of the Green Party Candidate, (as I did your support of Senator Clinton); however, that does not defer from the issue - What is Mr. Nader's justification of the charges leveled and when will you show he has done what the Senator Obama purportedly has not.
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06-26-2008, 09:40 AM
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Location: Chicagoland
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What is Mr. Nader's justification of the charges leveled and when will you show he has done what the Senator Obama purportedly has not.
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He made the charge about Obama. Can you prove the charge is incorrect? Is there any EVIDENCE that Obama has helped his "brothers"? Anything in his voting history?
Obviously the justification is that Obama has not lived up to his change-agent facade.
I know this is a tough one to spin, but you're doing a fine job by trying to put the impetus on the wrong candidate.
I love Nader; he got high marks from me in - 2000.
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06-26-2008, 10:10 AM
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Location: Charlotte
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Call it what you wish. If you had ground to stand on you wouldn't be falling. I'm always amused at the ease with which you find yourself able to induce racial undertones into your posts. This however does not detract from the issue. Can you provide verifiable proof of Mr. Nader's progress in addressing the concerns of the poor? Do you have examples of legislation or law that he has pushed through that show his success on the platform he has chosen in the article?
The presumption of the attack is that he has done what Senator Obama has not. So show what he has done.
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