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Old 06-28-2008, 09:41 AM
 
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Prior to be shot down did he? I mean if Obama needs to show his birth certificate then McCain needs to answer if he ever dropped napalm as part of his munitions repetoire and who the target was. Did you John? Fess up yes or no is simple and if yes who was the target?

A True Hero of the Vietnam War, Humanity and Country by Rev. Emmanuel Charles McCarthy
NAPALM. The most effective "anti-personnel" weapon, it is euphemistically described as "unfamiliar cooking fluid" by those apologists for American military methods. They automatically attribute all napalm cases to domestic accidents caused by the people using gasoline instead of kerosene in their cooking stoves. Kerosene is far too expensive for the peasants, who normally use charcoal for cooking. The only "cooking fluid" they know is very "unfamiliar" – it is delivered through their roofs by U.S. planes.

Some of its finer selling points were explained to me by a pilot in 1966: "We sure are pleased with those backroom boys at Dow. The original product wasn’t so hot – if the gooks were quick they could scrape it off. So the boys started adding polystyrene – now it sticks like **** to a blanket. But then if the gooks jumped under water it stopped burning, so they started adding Willie Peter (WP – white phosphorous) so’s to make it burn better. It’ll even burn under water now. And just one drop is enough, it’ll keep on burning right down to the bone so they die anyway from phosphorous poisoning."


http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/12676 (broken link)
McCain knew that what he was doing was wrong. Three months before he fell into that Hanoi lake, he barely survived when his fellow sailors accidentally fired a missile at his plane while it was getting ready to take off from his ship. The blast set off bombs and ordnance across the deck of the aircraft carrier. The conflagration, which took 24 hours to bring under control, killed 132 sailors. A few days later, a shaken McCain told a New York Times reporter in Saigon: "Now that I've seen what the bombs and the napalm did to the people on our ship, I'm not so sure that I want to drop any more of that stuff on North Vietnam."

Yet he did.

"I am a war criminal," McCain said on "60 Minutes" in 1997. "I bombed innocent women and children." Although it came too late to save the Vietnamese he'd killed 30 years earlier, it was a brave statement. Nevertheless, he smiles agreeably as he hears himself described as a "war hero" as he arrives at rallies in a bus marked "No Surrender."

Is this the smoking napalm confession of a mass murderer? No wonder he is willing to bomb Iran and may even use tactical nuclear weapons to accomplish his goal.

 
Old 06-28-2008, 10:07 AM
 
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Who cares?
 
Old 06-28-2008, 10:09 AM
 
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Who cares?
That's the American spirit. Good for you. Heaven awaits you with open arms.
 
Old 06-28-2008, 10:10 AM
 
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Great point.
 
Old 06-28-2008, 10:14 AM
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I thought we had learned enough to have gotten past calling our soldiers "baby killers." Are we really going back to that ugly time again?
 
Old 06-28-2008, 10:17 AM
 
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I thought we had learned enough to have gotten past calling our soldiers "baby killers." Are we really going back to that ugly time again?
Well....if the shoe fits.
 
Old 06-28-2008, 10:21 AM
 
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Well....if the shoe fits.
Quick! Get some YouTube links to back this up. Otherwise I'm calling BS.
 
Old 06-28-2008, 10:22 AM
 
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That's the American spirit. Good for you. Heaven awaits you with open arms.
War is hell. Get over it.
 
Old 06-28-2008, 10:26 AM
 
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War is hell. Get over it.
More about McCain possibly being responsible for the deaths of 132 sailors on the USS Forrestal in 1967:

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McCain crashed 5 jets, plus was responsible for the Forrestal fire. Something made the plane behind McCain fired a rocket, which hit McCain's external center fuel tank, and caused a fire. McCain panicked, and dropped two bombs into the fire.
John McCain And The USS Forrestal Fire
 
Old 06-28-2008, 10:43 AM
 
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Prior to be shot down did he? I mean if Obama needs to show his birth certificate then McCain needs to answer if he ever dropped napalm as part of his munitions repetoire and who the target was. Did you John? Fess up yes or no is simple and if yes who was the target?

A True Hero of the Vietnam War, Humanity and Country by Rev. Emmanuel Charles McCarthy
NAPALM. The most effective "anti-personnel" weapon, it is euphemistically described as "unfamiliar cooking fluid" by those apologists for American military methods. They automatically attribute all napalm cases to domestic accidents caused by the people using gasoline instead of kerosene in their cooking stoves. Kerosene is far too expensive for the peasants, who normally use charcoal for cooking. The only "cooking fluid" they know is very "unfamiliar" – it is delivered through their roofs by U.S. planes.

Some of its finer selling points were explained to me by a pilot in 1966: "We sure are pleased with those backroom boys at Dow. The original product wasn’t so hot – if the gooks were quick they could scrape it off. So the boys started adding polystyrene – now it sticks like **** to a blanket. But then if the gooks jumped under water it stopped burning, so they started adding Willie Peter (WP – white phosphorous) so’s to make it burn better. It’ll even burn under water now. And just one drop is enough, it’ll keep on burning right down to the bone so they die anyway from phosphorous poisoning."


http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/12676 (broken link)
McCain knew that what he was doing was wrong. Three months before he fell into that Hanoi lake, he barely survived when his fellow sailors accidentally fired a missile at his plane while it was getting ready to take off from his ship. The blast set off bombs and ordnance across the deck of the aircraft carrier. The conflagration, which took 24 hours to bring under control, killed 132 sailors. A few days later, a shaken McCain told a New York Times reporter in Saigon: "Now that I've seen what the bombs and the napalm did to the people on our ship, I'm not so sure that I want to drop any more of that stuff on North Vietnam."

Yet he did.

"I am a war criminal," McCain said on "60 Minutes" in 1997. "I bombed innocent women and children." Although it came too late to save the Vietnamese he'd killed 30 years earlier, it was a brave statement. Nevertheless, he smiles agreeably as he hears himself described as a "war hero" as he arrives at rallies in a bus marked "No Surrender."

Is this the smoking napalm confession of a mass murderer? No wonder he is willing to bomb Iran and may even use tactical nuclear weapons to accomplish his goal.
Interesting post - McCain actually referred to himself as a 'war criminal', but he still refers to his captors as 'G**ks'. The kindness that the Vietnamese showed in rescuing him from his downed jet, and then not killing him is astounding, after what he did to them. The adding white phosphorus to napalm makes it sticks on you and can't be wiped off - Hooray for American know-how! They are using white phosphorus and cluster bombs on Iraqi children. What 'Compassionate Conservatives' we have in the White House!
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