Obama Leads By Five in Very Red State of Montana (Congress, thought)

[xavierob82]

Originally Posted by ocexpo

Anyone who thinks he is going to win Montana is an idiot.

McCain is leading in California and Massachusetts too!!!



By the way, those polls are historically never right. Bush was suppose to loose Georgia at one point according to those polls, and creamd Kerry.

Not a single poll from 2004 has ever shown Bush losing Georgia. In fact, every poll showed him with a double-digit lead there.

source: RealClear Politics - Polls

Likewise, there has never been a poll from 2004 in which Kerry was leading Bush in Montana, so this poll is very encouraging indeed for Obama since Rasmussen is one of the most accurate pollsters out there. (I might add that Clinton won MT in 1992 and the state has been trending left over the years.)

[TuborgP]

Originally Posted by Houston3

The only poll that counts is the one coming up this November.

And until then we number junkies will do with the daily polls as they are, when they are because it rocks our have no life selfs.

[blacknight04]

Originally Posted by xavierob82

Not a single poll from 2004 has ever shown Bush losing Georgia. In fact, every poll showed him with a double-digit lead there.

source: RealClear Politics - Polls

Likewise, there has never been a poll from 2004 in which Kerry was leading Bush in Montana, so this poll is very encouraging indeed for Obama since Rasmussen is one of the most accurate pollsters out there. (I might add that Clinton won MT in 1992 and the state has been trending left over the years.)

Thanks for setting the record straight.

[victorianpunk]

NOTE: The same Neocon's saying "the only polls that matter are the ones on election day" now are the same one's who, a few months ago, were saying "Ron Paul doesn't stand a chance, just look at the POLLS"

What's good for the goose....

[ocexpo]

RassuFalse is full of crap because 2 other polls are SHOWING THE EXACT SAME THING!! SurveyUSA is showing McCain up 47-39, and Mason-Dixon is showing 47-39 as well.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - Montana: McCain vs. Obama

[xavierob82]

Those other two polls you cited were back in February and May, genius. Things have a way of changing, especially in battleground states.

Polls are only snapshots in time and considering Bush won MT by over 20 points in 2004 (which the RCP average correctly predicted, I might add), McCain only getting a 3 point RCP average in Big Sky Country is great news for Obama and means that Montana is in play this election cycle.

I'm not saying Obama will ultimately prevail in MT--there needs to be more polling done to confirm that the Rasmussen is not an outlier--but there seems to be 4 key factors that is helping Obama in Montana:

1. Missoula and Butte are very liberal college towns, and are Montana's Democratic strongholds.

2. The bad aftertaste of George W Bush, Conrad Burns, and nearby Idaho Sen. Larry Craig is turning Montanans away from the Republican Party.

3. The war in Iraq is unpopular there.

4. Obama tends to do very well in white, Northern tier states that have low minority populations.

[soho111]

LOL

I love that "POLLS DON'T MATTER!!!!!" when McCain is doing poorly, because if the script were flipped and the polls were showing McCain winning in, let's say, California or New York for example; this forum would be bombarded with "McCain winning in California" from the very same people.

Polls DO matter. Suck it up.

[RangerDuke08]

Very Red State? Please, montana is a bipartisan-libertarian state, probably the only real libertarian state in the country. God bless Montana.

[ocexpo]

Lets just cancel the race now. The people at the polling companies have already decided our next president.

McCain: 3
Obama: 525

Lets celebrate the presidency being handed down from one idiot to another.

[quelinda]

Originally Posted by ocexpo

Well, the difference between a poll on here and those polls is that

a) polls here are voted on by actual people and aren't made up by liberal leaning editors.
b) I, nor anyone else, is trying to pass off a poll on CityData as accurate whereas those liars are trying to pretend their "made up polls" are what "America really thinks."

Okie dokie then, all the polls from established and respected sources are made up lies? A little paranoid, are we? I mean I never thought that way when Dems were losing to Republicans..

But sure, your polls are truly representative of how people think. Your latest poll actually was overtly and openly biased against Obama in adding your "little joke" where the poll taker, when wishing to choose Obama as the president that will create change, was forced to choose the answer that said he would "take the country the Wright way". Maybe its your polls rather than Gallup and others that are biased LOL.