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There has been controversy on the net about whether or not Barack Obama really was born in Hawaii. The question concerns the validity of the birth certification he has offered to prove he is a "natural born" citizen, which is required to be U.S. president.
See the discussion in this article:
Obama's birth certificate: Final chapter
By Amy Hollyfield
Published on Friday, June 27th, 2008 at 05:21 p.m.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/
However, this page disputes the conclusions of that article:
As Obama stonewalls on uncertified birth certificate, official doubts mount
June 28, 2008
http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12944.htm
The main problem is that on this page is presented an example of a genuine Hawaiian birth certification which shows that the state seal and registrar's signature show through to the front from the reverse side. However in the Obama birth certification these certifying features required to prove its authenticity are nowhere to be found.
Note also the Obama birth certification has a different border than does the genuine one. I thought someone here who has a recent birth certification from Hawaii, received within the last few years, could check theirs to be sure that the state seal and registrar's signature really do show through to the front from the reverse side, and that the borders on yours do resemble the genuine ones and not the ones on Obama's.
Wouldn't that be a crock?! Maybe is what HillBill has been waiting for....her dream come true. Then she and McCain could get back to "business as usual".
Forgery Revealed in Kos Publication of Obama 'Birth Certificate' (updated)
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[SIZE=3]A few weeks ago, a diary entry at Daily Kos published several documents purporting to be Obama's birth certificate. One of those documents is now a confirmed forgery, ferreted out by the website Israeli Insider:[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fake Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same Daily Kos blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears. [/SIZE]
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Well, the liberal media would never cover this in a million years, so I dont ever think America would even know there was doubt about his certificate.
it's a law about running for president that one must be born in the US.
is it not the lawmaker's responsibility to ensure that the laws are adhered to? is it not the FBI or CIA's responsibility to ensure there is no election fraud taking place? since when do we americans depend so much on the media to ensure our laws are followed?
it's a law about running for president that one must be born in the US.
is it not the lawmaker's responsibility to ensure that the laws are adhered to? is it not the FBI or CIA's responsibility to ensure there is no election fraud taking place? since when do we americans depend so much on the media to ensure our laws are followed?
that alone is a tragic mistake we are making.
They do. Dont give too much credit to anyone else besides the media.
This birth certificate nonsense has already had at least one thread dedicated to it. If you notice the article you posted is from 6-27.
Anyone who doesn't understand that a candidate for federal office, particularly president, is investigated and thoroughly vetted is either dense or just looking for something to hassle about on a slow weekend.
This birth certificate nonsense has already had at least one thread dedicated to it. If you notice the article you posted is from 6-27.
Anyone who doesn't understand that a candidate for federal office, particularly president, is investigated and thoroughly vetted is either dense or just looking for something to hassle about on a slow weekend.
I think the FBI has better things to investigate right now. We havent even gotten to the DNC yet!!! It would be highly unlikely that he would be investigated before then.
it's a law about running for president that one must be born in the US.
is it not the lawmaker's responsibility to ensure that the laws are adhered to? is it not the FBI or CIA's responsibility to ensure there is no election fraud taking place? since when do we americans depend so much on the media to ensure our laws are followed?
that alone is a tragic mistake we are making.
Constitutional provisions wikipedia
The special term "Natural Born Citizen" is used in particular as a requirement for eligibility to serve as President or Vice President of the United States. Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution contains the clause:
“ No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. ” Additionally, the Twelfth Amendment to the United States Constitution states that: "[N]o person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States." The grandfather provision of the Natural Born Citizen Clause thus covered the first several presidents and vice-presidents, who were citizens at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, but had been born as British citizens before the American Revolution. It is generally agreed that these constitutional provisions mean anyone born on American soil to parents who are U.S. citizens is a “natural born citizen” eligible to someday become president or vice-president, whereas anyone whose citizenship is acquired after birth as a result of naturalization "process or procedure" is not a "natural born citizen" and is therefore ineligible for those two positions.[1] In between these extremes lie gray areas, some controversy, and various settled precedents.[2]
-------------------------------------------------------------------- basically: Natural Born -citizen is a child born of two U.S. Citizen parents on U.S. soil.
The general great controversy is mostly in peoples minds the argument about the soil...
Which should also be adequately determined and has not been with information provided by Obama.
Although, Obama has stated by his own admission that his father was citizen of Great Britain as Kenya's jurisdiction at the time; neither did he ever become or intend to be a U.S. citizen to accentuate the point.
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Then she and McCain could get back to "business as usual".
Born in the USA
