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Old 07-06-2008, 09:41 PM
 
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WHY do you think Barack Hussein Obama is flip-flopping on Ending the War In Iraq and How To Handle Iran.

I'm going to use the answers in this thread to set up a Poll.
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Old 07-06-2008, 09:45 PM
 
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Because he knows an immediate pullout of the troops would be destabilizing in the Middle East, which is exactly what McCain has been saying all along.
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Old 07-06-2008, 09:49 PM
 
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He knows if he pulls out immediately, Iraq could fall back into the hands of the terrorists and insurgents. But his position was immediate withdrawal for so long, and we have lots of those comments on tape, he just looks like the fool he is for all the hyperbole without actually sitting down with anyone in the know and getting the real facts.

He can't run from his former position and comments - and Mccain will use it to beat him over the head with it.

Not to mention the fact he risks losing his kook-left anti-war nuts if he waffles too much.

It should be fun to watch him twist in the wind trying to explain his tortured roving position.
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Old 07-06-2008, 09:56 PM
 
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Because he knows an immediate pullout of the troops would be destabilizing in the Middle East, which is exactly what McCain has been saying all along.
I agree. Shouldnt he have seen this months ago before he COMMITTED to his position?
And why are so many saying that was not his position when we all know it was?
Iran, he is totally lost here, to hard for him to make a clear decision and make a committment.

This is exactly why he wont debate McCain because he has taken many wrong positions on key issues and doesnt want to get nailed for them and being on the wrong side.
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Old 07-06-2008, 10:01 PM
 
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He had to lasso the extreme left with his pull out of Iraq immediately pitch in order to beat hillary. Now he will pay for it in the general election


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I agree. Shouldnt he have seen this months ago before he COMMITTED to his position?
And why are so many saying that was not his position when we all know it was?
Iran, he is totally lost here, to hard for him to make a clear decision and make a committment.

This is exactly why he wont debate McCain because he has taken many wrong positions on key issues and doesnt want to get nailed for them and being on the wrong side.
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Old 07-06-2008, 10:03 PM
 
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Default POLL: Which Issue Will Hurt Barack Hussein Obama The Most In November?

POLL: Which Issue Will Hurt Barack Hussein Obama The Most In November?
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Old 07-06-2008, 10:14 PM
 
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The ramifications of a pulling out now would be disasterous to not only Iraqu but to the entire middle east. I don't understand why anyone with any intelligence at all couldn't see that all along. This was just a hook Obama and Clinton both used to get elected and stir the anti war frenzy, knowing all along they could not fulfill it.
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Old 07-06-2008, 10:25 PM
 
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POLL: Which Issue Will Hurt Barack Hussein Obama The Most In November?
Is this a different question then the original then?

If so it is a great question for another thread.

Toss up for me, he is on the wrong side of Iraq and wrong side of drilling oil to relieve the people of the economic burden we are facing right now of high oil prices.

So either Iraq or Economy for me. Dont really know yet but give it a couple days as I see him waffling on the oil drilling once he sees he was wrong again.
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Old 07-06-2008, 11:49 PM
 
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Because he now has some senior advisors than have more experience in his campaign to advise him. Look at any president in modern history rather democrat or republican and you will see they go to the center in the general election and even more so in governing.Obamas problem besides the Clinton democrats is the independents who he has not had to attrrat before now. Then he wants some republicans just as reagan had democrsts for reagn. He afterall wants to be able to accomplish some things. Politics is afterall best defined as the art of compromise. Tyhe far left and the far right don't do this very well if at all;thus they rarely get elected and never for a second term.Reagan and bill clinton id thsi very well.
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Old 07-07-2008, 12:39 AM
 
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In 2004 moderates and conservatives accounted for 80% of voters according to CNN. There is simply no way a far fledged liberal will ever win the white house. Even if looking at the horrible job Bush has done, according to SurveyUSA Obama leads 48/47 - basically a tie. Obama does not seem to be doing very well for the advantage that Bush has given the Democrats this election year. The flip flop on Iraq is that only now has Obama realized there is no way to withdraw all troops within 16 months, perhaps some troops within 16 months, perhaps most troops within 48 months but McCain seen as the warmonger for declaring it a 100 year war is more accurate with withdrawing most troops within 48 months.
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