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View Poll Results: Is Obama Right: Don’t Worry About Immigrants Speaking English, Your Kids Need To Learn Spanish
Barack Hussein Obama has lost it. It shows how he wants Americans to change in their own country. What's next... 19 19.59%
Obama is wrong: Immigrants should learn English 25 25.77%
Obama is part right: American kids should learn Spanish. 8 8.25%
Barack is part right: Immigrants should learn English and American kids should learn Spanish. 29 29.90%
Obama is totally wrong: Immigrants should learn English and American kids should learn what ever Language they want. 34 35.05%
Each American must learn every language spoken in the United States. 3 3.09%
Other, please post 5 5.15%
Not Sure 0 0%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 97. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-10-2008, 01:22 PM
 
Location: North Side of Indy, IN
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But we simply dont do "serious" business with Mexico. We do 95% of all our mega business with Europe and Asia. You cant tell me that a third world country like Mexico is part of the "international business coalition" like Japan, the US, Canada, and Europe are. Its much more valuable to learn French, German, Chinese, etc. if your doing it to communicate with "international businesses."

Spanish is to communicate with the immigrants who come here. Even Portugal, the European spanish country, speaks totally different Spanish than what most Americans in high school learn.
Ha! Portugal is the "European Spanish country?" In Portugal they speak Portuguese, not Spanish. How about Portugal's next-door neighbor...Spain? I think a few people there speak Spanish.

What exactly makes you think that the U.S. doesn't do "serious" business with Mexico? We import and export a lot of goods to and from Mexico (and other Spanish-speaking countries), including crude oil, electronics, and automobiles. This is not to mention the fact that Mexico is not the only country that speaks Spanish as its native language. Clearly, you're having trouble with this concept, considering the fact that you didn't realize that residents of Spain speak Spanish, either.

Whether or not we do a lot of "business" with Spanish-speaking countries is beside the point. Spanish is, in fact, a world language, not to mention that roughly 15% of U.S. residents (legal or otherwise) speak it as a native language. It would certainly behoove students to learn Spanish. If not Spanish...SOME language would be better than a generation of arrogant English-only Americans who are ill-equipped to compete in a global market because we'd rather everyone else learn OUR language.

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Old 07-10-2008, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Ha! Portugal is the "European Spanish country?" In Portugal, they speak Portuguese, not Spanish. How about Portugal's next-door neighbor...Spain? I think a few people there speak Spanish.

Maybe we don't do "serious" business with Mexico, but we do import and export a lot of goods to and from Mexico
All great points - except we do do "serious" business in Mexico. more than any European country.
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Old 07-10-2008, 01:25 PM
 
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Once againnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn....

NO W H E R E does Obama say he will FORCE anyone to learn another language.....N O W H E R E


However, it would certainly be nice if SOME here learned ENGLISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
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Old 07-10-2008, 01:26 PM
 
Location: OC, CA
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Ha! Portugal is the "European Spanish country?" In Portugal, they speak Portuguese, not Spanish. How about Portugal's next-door neighbor...Spain? I think a few people there speak Spanish.

Maybe we don't do "serious" business with Mexico, but we do import and export a lot of goods to and from Mexico (and other Spanish-speaking countries), not to mention the fact that Mexico is not the only country that speaks Spanish as its native language. Clearly, you're having trouble with this concept, considering the fact that you didn't realize that residents of Spain speak Spanish, either.

Regardless of whether or not we do a lot of "business" with Spanish-speaking countries is beside the point. Spanish is, in fact, a world language, not to mention that roughly 15% of U.S. residents (legal or otherwise) speak it as a native language. It would certainly behoove students to learn Spanish. If not Spanish...SOME language would be better than a generation of arrogant English-only Americans who are ill-equipped to compete in a global market because we'd rather everyone else learn OUR language.
Stop saying spanish would make us all equipped for a global market because that is crap. I encourage learning languages, just not spanish.
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Old 07-10-2008, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Stop saying spanish would make us all equipped for a global market because that is crap. I encourage learning languages, just not spanish.
How do you feel about Portuguese, since per your analysis that is "a completely different type of spanish?"
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Old 07-10-2008, 01:34 PM
 
Location: North Side of Indy, IN
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All great points - except we do do "serious" business in Mexico. more than any European country.
I was trying to be sarcastic, and it didn't read correctly. I edited it.

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How do you feel about Portuguese, since per your analysis that is "a completely different type of spanish?"
Ha! ocexpo is truly clueless.
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Old 07-10-2008, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Denver
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How do you feel about Portuguese, since per your analysis that is "a completely different type of spanish?"
I agree with ocexpo you really shouldn't be tuld you half to learn a language wear you don't know what countri speeks it.

**now get back to your Portuguese Spanish class billy4**
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Old 07-10-2008, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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However, it would certainly be nice if SOME here learned ENGLISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
Haven't you been paying attention? Silly things like grammar, spelling, punctuation, syntax, etc are not important.

This is a politics forum not a college admissions essay.
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Old 07-10-2008, 01:37 PM
 
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Haven't you been paying attention? Silly things like grammar, spelling, punctuation, syntax, etc are not important.
This is a politics forum not a college admissions essay.
I'm elitist...
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Old 07-10-2008, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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I'm elitist...
Me too - although being black and a welfare recipient, I probably shouldn't be
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