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You are right! And it is not coincidence that the nations where religion has the LEAST influence tend to be the more peaceful and advanced nations and the nations where religion has the MOST influence tend to be backwards and oppressive.
That is an unfortunate, but spot on observation. Its clear that the more religion is involved in secular state affairs, the more the people as a whole suffer.
Professed religious belief and actual church attendance and adherence to one's denomination are two different things.
The difference between "saying" you go to church is quite different from if one is really going to church or not. Here you go:
Did You Really Go To Church This Week? Behind the Poll Data
Wow. Well, absolutely, it just MUST be true then, right? We believe what we want to believe to suit our own agenda. I wonder how many other "studies" have been done that show the opposite.
Nice spin, though. I guess you'll next be saying we ARE a secular nation?
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The Hillary Dems are embarrassing the Democratic party. For all the ills the Democrats point out in the Republic Party, no one can ever accuse the RP for being divided. When it's time to tow the party line, they do it. Democrats as of late have a very sore loser attitude, almost like a kid in the cereal aisle when they don't get their way.
So instead of supposedly getting behind the party their candidate is affiliated with and focusing on defeating McCain they'd rather waste time and money in these grass roots efforts to implode their own party- nice.
The Hillary Dems are embarrassing the Democratic party. For all the ills the Democrats point out in the Republic Party, no one can ever accuse the RP for being divided. When it's time to tow the party line, they do it. Democrats as of late have a very sore loser attitude, almost like a kid in the cereal aisle when they don't get their way.
So instead of supposedly getting behind the party their candidate is affiliated with and focusing on defeating McCain they'd rather waste time and money in these grass roots efforts to implode their own party- nice.
Certainly not the party of Thomas Jefferson.
C'mon, now! Don't lump us all into that category. I was a Hillary supporter from early 2006 (way before she even announced her decision to run) until the primaries were over about a month ago, at which time I became an Obama supporter, since he became the presumptive nominee, and many of his ideals and stances on the issues are similar to Hillary's. Although I would've preferred Hillary, I think Obama will make a fine President, and can bring a lot of good to this country. Particularly moreso than McCain.
Yes, some Hillary supporters are doing a disservice to the party by trying to undermine Obama. However, it should be stated as some, not all.
I guess some people have to resort to dishonesty to make their side look better.
Quite pathetic, isn't it? People so commonly seem to forget that everyone is able to go back and look at previous postings and threads. People even more commonly seem to use dishonesty and underhanded tactics to try to make their side look better, or to try to "prove" their arguments.
Quite pathetic, isn't it? People so commonly seem to forget that everyone is able to go back and look at previous postings and threads. People even more commonly seem to use dishonesty and underhanded tactics to try to make their side look better, or to try to "prove" their arguments.
I dont know why you are so "anti-anyone-but-Obama" but you are always attacking your opposition.
This is a list of things you have said about anyone who does not support Obama, and I am here to counter your arguement.
People who support Clinton/McCain are
Not racist
Not in support of the war necessarily
Not voting just to spite the popular guy
Not for Bush
Not against immigrants
Not war mongers
Not "anti-Christian"
Not hateful
Not against the lower class
Not looking down on the poor
I think you need to stop attacking people. There was a "certain" thread that I was in where people like you would attack McCain/Hillary supporters just for being such. Your kind of anger and hate is not welcome in these forums.
I dont know why you are so "anti-anyone-but-Obama" but you are always attacking your opposition.
This is a list of things you have said about anyone who does not support Obama, and I am here to counter your arguement.
People who support Clinton/McCain are
Not racist
Not in support of the war necessarily
Not voting just to spite the popular guy
Not for Bush
Not against immigrants
Not war mongers
Not "anti-Christian"
Not hateful
Not against the lower class
Not looking down on the poor
I think you need to stop attacking people. There was a "certain" thread that I was in where people like you would attack McCain/Hillary supporters just for being such. Your kind of anger and hate is not welcome in these forums.
Ha ha...learn to read. A few posts up, I wrote about how I was a Hillary supporter (and still one, at heart, although I'll be voting for Obama) for YEARS before switching to Obama last month, when he became the presumptive nominee.
1. I've never said that people who don't support Obama are racist.
2. I've never said a single thing about the war on this entire forum.
3. No clue what you're talking about here
4. I've never mentioned anything about Bush on this entire forum.
5. I've never said that any of the Presidential candidates (or any of their supporters) are pro- or anti-immigration. Personally, I am pro immigration, but anti-illegal immigration.
6. I've never mentioned anything about the war or war-mongering on this entire forum.
7. I've never mentioned anything about anyone being pro- or anti-Christian, except when I wrote about my feelings towards the people who automatically hate Obama due to his heritage and family ties to Islam. Even then, I don't believe I mentioned anything about anyone being pro- or anti-Christian. I, myself, am Agnostic, as I've mentioned in multiple threads, and I do not care what religion others pratice, as I've also mentioned multiple times.
8. I've obviously never said that Clinton or McCain supporters are hateful, as I was a Hillary supporter myself, until very recently, and I'm not hateful toward any of the candidates.
9. I've actually defended the lower class multiple times on this forum. (most recently in the thread regarding Bush's belief that the economic stimulus plan is working. I defended people who were recently laid off and can't make their bills when one poster stated that he's happy that so many people in this country are in financial crisis right now, because it serves them right for not saving.)
10. See #9
Quite obviously, you have me confused with someone else, as I haven't written any of the things you claim I've written. Either that, or you have no real basis for an argument against what I have written, so you're just making things up. Try again...
Ha ha...learn to read. A few posts up, I wrote about how I was a Hillary supporter (and still one, at heart, although I'll be voting for Obama) for YEARS before switching to Obama last month, when he became the presumptive nominee.
1. I've never said that people who don't support Obama are racist.
2. I've never said a single thing about the war on this entire forum.
3. No clue what you're talking about here
4. I've never mentioned anything about Bush on this entire forum.
5. I've never said that any of the Presidential candidates (or any of their supporters) are pro- or anti-immigration. Personally, I am pro immigration, but anti-illegal immigration.
6. I've never mentioned anything about the war or war-mongering on this entire forum.
7. I've never mentioned anything about anyone being pro- or anti-Christian, except when I wrote about my feelings towards the people who automatically hate Obama due to his heritage and family ties to Islam. Even then, I don't believe I mentioned anything about anyone being pro- or anti-Christian. I, myself, am Agnostic, as I've mentioned in multiple threads, and I do not care what religion others pratice, as I've also mentioned multiple times.
8. I've obviously never said that Clinton or McCain supporters are hateful, as I was a Hillary supporter myself, until very recently, and I'm not hateful toward any of the candidates.
9. I've actually defended the lower class multiple times on this forum. (most recently in the thread regarding Bush's belief that the economic stimulus plan is working. I defended people who were recently laid off and can't make their bills when one poster stated that he's happy that so many people in this country are in financial crisis right now, because it serves them right for not saving.)
10. See #9
Quite obviously, you have me confused with someone else, as I haven't written any of the things you claim I've written. Either that, or you have no real basis for an argument against what I have written, so you're just making things up. Try again...
I was talking more to the very vocal and passionate Democrats in the forum in general, and it was not specifically aimed at you. I reread it, and realized I kind of had it written towards you, and I apologize, it was suppose to be for the passionate Democrats in this thread.
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Poll is skewed
