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WHAT is so offensive about this post? It's the truth. All of it. Did you bother to read ALL of it? Did you bother to go to the sites I provided? You didn't have time to actually do that. Three minutes is not time to read the whole thing and go to the links. It's offensive that students actually do better when they participate in community service? It's offensive that Boy Scouts perform community service? That's actually quite funny (in a very sad way) that anybody would consider such things offensive.
WHAT is so offensive about this post? It's the truth. All of it. Did you bother to read ALL of it? Did you bother to go to the sites I provided? You didn't have time to actually do that. Three minutes is not time to read the whole thing and go to the links. It's offensive that students actually do better when they participate in community service? It's offensive that Boy Scouts perform community service? That's actually quite funny that anybody would consider such things offensive.
It's offensive that you insult and deride anyone who doesn't agree with you. It's offensive that you have so many labels for people who see things differently. That's offensive and immature.
It's offensive that you insult and deride anyone who doesn't agree with you. It's offensive that you have so many labels for people who see things differently. That's offensive and immature.
OK, whose thoughts are immature and offensive? The original poster's. Offensive to anybody who survived the HOlocaust or whose relatives survived it. That original post (and those with similar thought processes) are worthy of insults and derision because of the link to Hitler. I don't often say insulting and derisive things, but that post deserved all of it.
And exactly what is wrong with performing community service?
OK, whose thoughts are immature and offensive? The original poster's. Offensive to anybody who survived the HOlocaust or whose relatives survived it. That original post (and those with similar thought processes) are worthy of insults and derision because of the link to Hitler. I don't often say insulting and derisive things, but that post deserved all of it.
And exactly what is wrong with performing community service?
Your pointing the finger rather than acknowledge that Your post was highly offensive to anyone who doesn't agree with you. Insulting.
We weren't talking about "community service". We were talking about MANDATORY community service. There's nothing wrong with childbearing but theres something very wrong with MANDATORY childbearing. It's about CHOICE.
Your pointing the finger rather than acknowledge that Your post was highly offensive to anyone who doesn't agree with you. Insulting.
We weren't talking about "community service". We were talking about MANDATORY community service. There's nothing wrong with childbearing but theres something very wrong with MANDATORY childbearing. It's about CHOICE.
And exactly where does Obama mention MANDATORY community service?
I realize the OP mentioned it. I'd like you to show me where OBAMA mentions it.
While I'm all for being community oriented, I'm opposed to compulsory community service. The people I knew who did it in high school did it because "it looks REALLY good on a resume" (direct quote) Now, if I were a poor elderly person getting help from a high schooler with that motive, I'd refuse the help, rather than be used by some sniveling high schooler who wants to get into Yale.
When you make people, especially young people, do community service, it goes from a genuine desire to help to something on a "to do" list to be scratched off. Rather, teach them compassion and service from an early age. It's more effective that way.
I respect your opinion. It's a noble sentiment, but I respectfully disagree.
And exactly where does Obama mention MANDATORY community service?
I realize the OP mentioned it. I'd like you to show me where OBAMA mentions it.
I am continuing a conversation about post #18. The poster is in favor of mandatory Community service (2nd paragraph from the bottom). That's is who and what I am answering.
I am continuing a conversation about post #18. The poster is in favor of mandatory Community service (2nd paragraph from the bottom). That's is who and what I am answering.
Oh, sorry. Thought you were referring to the OP's list describing Obama's plan for mandatory community service, which you found "very interesting" and which is the topic of the thread. Remember?
1. Force America's youth to enter a "Civil Service" Academy for 2 years.
2. At this same speech, Obama promised to withhold funds from school districts that don't make their junior high and high schoolers serve 50 hours a year. 100 hours for college students, provided their type of service is deemed acceptable by a sprawling new Federal bureaucracy.
3. Re-educate children to transform them into fully government-obedient "citizens". Teach Obedience = government obedience, not obedience to parents, religion, etc.
4. Teach Socialism.
5. Teach Atheism.
6. Teach anthipathy for conservatives and bitter people who "cling to guns and religion".
"which [Michelle and Barack Obama] will FORCE by threat of imprisonment America's youth to undergo."
Doesn't this interest you as much as post #18 does? I should think you'd be very worried about it.
I don't agree that the federal government should mandate community service, but individual school districts should (as it is done in 49% of the country already - source in my previous post.) There is nothing to be lost by requiring community service during the school years. It's good for those who perform it and those who receive it. Studies have shown that students who perform community service have higher rates of attending college and do better in certain subjects (source is in my prior post.) And they do better if the community service is required by their school than if it's voluntary. Strange but true. I don't understand those statistics, but that's what the study showed. I understand that some people will disagree with that. It's totally fine to disagree, but to compare Obama to Hitler IS offensive.
I grew up in a family that strongly believed in volunteerism and helping those who were not as fortunate as me. And I grew up in a staunchly Republican family, so it's not that I grew up in a left wing liberal household - far from it. Though my beliefs do tend toward the more liberal side now - I'm sure that's pretty easy to see - my mom remains quite right wing (dad is no longer alive, though if he could, he'd vote for McCain from heaven, I'm sure.) The benefits that my 2 years in Peace Corps gave me are innumerable; those 2 years shaped my life. Why did I join Peace Corps? The desire started after I did a REQUIRED community service project at school. As a teenager, I sure wasn't happy about doing it, but I ended up loving it. Those projects that are required by school sometimes open up opportunities that a teenager may not know exists and ideas that a teenager hadn't thought of before.
It was the Hitler reference and the general name-calling done toward those who oppose Obama that steered the vehemence in my first post. I am often offended and pretty horrified by the immature name-calling I read on C-D (on both sides) and I'm sorry I lowered myself to that level. If you, laysayfair, are not one who does name-calling, I do apologize if I offended you (and to any others, as well.) That doesn't mean I change my opinion on community service requirements during school, as required by individual school districts or private schools. I still believe it's a good idea.
There is nothing to be lost by requiring community service during the school years.
What if you are a kid who has to work a regular job because you need the money? Then your option to have a part time job is basically taken from you, no? Unless the community service work is done during school hours?
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