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Old 07-14-2008, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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for the greater good huh. how socialist of you. oh, and by the way, the capital gains tax IS a tax on the middle class. look it up. the ignorance of obama supporters never ceases to amaze me.

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Obama has not proposed raising taxes on the middle class?! You mean lowering?

The real segment who would feel the pinch under his administration is those making over 250,000 a year. And I for one am willing to let them be taxed more for the greater good. Yes, I am very generous.
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Old 07-14-2008, 07:36 PM
 
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There is not counting for stupidity... Who CARES where he buys his gas? Are these Morons voting?
I would guess that if "Barbie" can vote then anyone or any doll can vote. How about GI Joe ?
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Old 07-14-2008, 07:49 PM
 
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I would think those that are concerned with the weakening of the American system would be outraged at the last 8 years. You have seen the political elite use procedures to bring us to war and remove many rights which had origins in our constitution. In short the last 8 years has seen the constitution have its legs cut out from under it and through fear.... the terrorist are going to get you, you wont be safe unless we take your rights.. and so forth they have kept America pacified and complacent. You fear socialism / Marxism but continue to support the regime that has brought us closer to that ideology than any other. Perhaps a study of those ideologies may help for you to see we are already too close to it. Im curious as to when the republicans will make changes to the term length in order to move us closer to a dictactorship.
Name ONE right that you have lost...And when was the loss of that right last used against you...
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Old 07-14-2008, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Here
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Name ONE right that you have lost...And when was the loss of that right last used against you...
Don't hold your breath waiting.
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Old 07-15-2008, 04:01 AM
 
Location: Texas
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those who disagree with you are insulting.
Not at all. Those who insult me are insulting. Your frustration is showing.

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hmmmm. whose irrational? I don't blame you. you can't debate me, so you cry foul. maybe next time.

You're partially right...

It makes no sense whatsoever to "debate" you.

I grant you the last word.
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Old 07-15-2008, 06:45 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Why all the obvious anger?

Here's a guy who has achieved his position through hard work and high ability. He isn't the presumptive nominee because he was born with all the advantages of wealth and powerful political connections. He's where he is because he's done it the American way; he's worked his way up.

Here's a guy who doesn't seem to be motivated by personal gain. After graduating at the top of his class from Harvard Law School, he was offered very lucrative positions with Wall Street law firms. He instead returned to Chicago as a community organizer among the working poor.

Here's a guy who has a vision of repairing the obvious rift in America between left and right. Who does that threaten?

On this forum, the anger directed at Obama is all out of proportion. I think some of it can be attributed to ignorance (he's a muslim, he's a black panther, etc) and some can be attributed to hard-right wingnuts who see the post-Bush years on the horizon as a bleak period in the wake of his failed presidency.
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Old 07-15-2008, 06:59 AM
 
Location: West Texas
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On this forum, the anger directed at Obama is all out of proportion. I think some of it can be attributed to ignorance (he's a muslim, he's a black panther, etc) and some can be attributed to hard-right wingnuts who see the post-Bush years on the horizon as a bleak period in the wake of his failed presidency.
I'm not conservative nor liberal. I pretty much vote issues (but I am a registered republican). Let's face it.. since voting for president isn't so much in voting who you want as in voting against who you don't want, it really does boil down to issues.

The reason I won't vote for Obama is because of his too liberal stands on too many topics. I'm already tired of my tax dollars providing for those too lazy to get jobs and stay at home as a baby-producing factory (gender neutral... could be male or female... not aiming at anything specific). Liberals have already made it too easy and comfortable to stay at home... make a law that says "An individual may receive government subsidies (medical, welfare, etc.) ONLY in the event they cannot work for medical reasons, or there are NO jobs available in the city in which they live" and I'll vote for them! As long as there's a "Help Wanted" sign.. there should be no welfare checks with the exception of medical disability.

I also won't vote for him because most of his supporters make moronic statements like the one quoted above.

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Old 07-15-2008, 07:03 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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I'm not conservative nor liberal. I pretty much vote issues (but I am a registered republican). Let's face it.. since voting for president isn't so much in voting who you want as in voting against who you don't want, it really does boil down to issues.

The reason I won't vote for Obama is because of his too liberal stands on too many topics. I'm already tired of my tax dollars providing for those too lazy to get jobs and stay at home as a baby-producing factory (gender neutral... could be male or female... not aiming at anything specific). Liberals have already made it too easy and comfortable to stay at home... make a law that says "An individual may receive government subsidies (medical, welfare, etc.) ONLY in the event they cannot work for medical reasons, or there are NO jobs available in the city in which they live" and I'll vote for them! As long as there's a "Help Wanted" sign.. there should be no welfare checks with the exception of medical disability.

I also won't vote for him because most of his supporters make moronic statements like the one above.

Are you referring to this statement?

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As long as there's a "Help Wanted" sign.. there should be no welfare checks with the exception of medical disability
It's the "one above"...
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Old 07-15-2008, 07:18 AM
 
Location: West Texas
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Are you referring to this statement?



It's the "one above"...

Hahaha..... uh.. no. Thanks for proving my point so eloquently though.
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Old 07-15-2008, 07:25 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Hahaha..... uh.. no. Thanks for proving my point so eloquently though.
It's just that morons like me aren't able to appreciate all of lil' Bush's accomplishments, right?

Set me straight, then.
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