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Old 08-10-2008, 08:23 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
Why all the obvious anger?

Here's a guy who has achieved his position through hard work and high ability. He isn't the presumptive nominee because he was born with all the advantages of wealth and powerful political connections. He's where he is because he's done it the American way; he's worked his way up.

Here's a guy who doesn't seem to be motivated by personal gain. After graduating at the top of his class from Harvard Law School, he was offered very lucrative positions with Wall Street law firms. He instead returned to Chicago as a community organizer among the working poor.

Here's a guy who has a vision of repairing the obvious rift in America between left and right. Who does that threaten?
He, like most democrats is a socialist. Take from the pockets of the people to fuel government programs that keep minorites oppressed and unhappy. The offensive thing about Obama is that he is willing to speak poorly of his own mother and grandmother simply to win over minority voters (typical white woman?). His charm and personality have managed to delude the mindless masses into thinking that he will be a savior to all.
How is he a threat to me? He threatens my pockets and my liberty. He has also opened up racial rifts in this country that were being slowly healed by time and progress simply to further his own campaign.
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Old 08-10-2008, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Texas
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He, like most democrats is a socialist. Take from the pockets of the people to fuel government programs that keep minorites oppressed and unhappy. The offensive thing about Obama is that he is willing to speak poorly of his own mother and grandmother simply to win over minority voters (typical white woman?). His charm and personality have managed to delude the mindless masses into thinking that he will be a savior to all.

You seem to be swallowing crocodiles and choking on gnats to justify your aintpathy. The typical white woman remark was so offensive.

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How is he a threat to me? He threatens my pockets and my liberty.
Let me mention two things that are real (not imagined) threats to both of those concerns:

1. record deficits financed by loans largely from Red China

2. "Patriot" act

Does Obama's non-connection these bother you, too?

Or are you mentioning possible imagined threats again to justify your opposition? Because the threats to your pocketbook and liberty have been in full force for some years now. But you find the imagined Obama policies to be more damaging. Interesting...

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He has also opened up racial rifts in this country that were being slowly healed by time and progress simply to further his own campaign.
You really are reaching.

Are you aware that on his application to Harvard he didn't even specify his race, preferring to not be given any possible affirmative action advantage in his admission?
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Old 08-10-2008, 08:37 AM
 
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First off Obama is related to none other than the evil money hungry oil fiend who kills american soldiers for his own benefit, Dick Cheney. That should be reason enough not to vote for him. BUT!!! for all of you who dont understand politics or law, and understand the fundamentals of who actually runs the show, it doesnt matter who is the president. There will never be any change. Read the Quotes of Thomas Jefferson and his warning signs on what we are now seeing in are (WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A REPUBLIC!! BUT SOMEHOW THEY CHANGED IT TO A DEMOCRACY???? NOW ITS A CAPITALISTIC!!!).Big Corporations, and The Federal Reserve. Those are the Problems. They are the ones who control the show. The Fed pimps out the U.S and the Fed is Ran By European (ENGLISH) Bankers. 100% of your Tax dollars goes to paying the interest that the U.S owes the Federal Reserve!!! The IRS is also a PRIVATE CORPORATION! Its there to bust knee caps when the slaves dont pay. You see, people dont understand that the United States was a BOOMING and GLORIOUS PLACE!! in the late 1800's early 1900's. Thats when there wasnt any taxes. And yes the government can still be ran with out Taxing the hell out of the slaves. Go look it up and find out for yourself. But Once the Federal Reserve and The IRS was created, the Economics of the US became Jacked, because now we are dealing with FIAT Money, Money that has no value. research it. All of you people that argue over whos gonna be president this and that, LMAO, PLEASE OPEN YOUR EYES!!!!!!!!! Do your research again and you will find out that there are less than 20 corporations that own ALL OF THE MEDIA COMPANYS IN THE US. The people that own those 20 corporations all have there hands dipped into politics business and the federal reserve, and dont forget FreeMasonry and other secret societies. ITS NOT A RACE ISSUE, ITS A GAME, ITS ALL A BIG SHAM, You are all getting played and Obama might not even know it, but hes getting played too....
You preaching to the people who want to be spoon fed by the governement. While what you are saying is all valid and true, people aren't interested in truth. The mindless cattle of our society are the people who reproduce at the highest rates. These people will never want to take responsibilty for their own lives, and will always look to mama and papa (governement) for solutions. This is what happened relatively shortly before the fall of Rome. We already have another democrat running in the Republican seat. Taxes will rise, people will become more and more unhappy as they continue to blame government for not fixing their problems, taxes will rise, etc...
If people don't become too overweight and complacent we might see a national revolt in the future, but probably not in our lifetime. We have to let the nations whiners and complainers hand their problems over to government and not get results before they decide that wasn't such a great idea afterall. Genius learns from others mistakes, smart people learn from their own mistakes, most people make the same mistakes again and again. Just sit back and watch the hens do their pecking, and laugh. It's not worth trying to get through to most of them.
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Old 08-10-2008, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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not really sure why you choose to lie. from ontheissues.

Benefited from affirmative action but overcame via merit. (Dec 2007)

the patroit act.

Clinton took direct aim at Obama and connects fairly solidly: "You said you would vote against the Patriot Act; you came to the Senate, you voted for it." Clinton is correct to say that Obama opposed the Patriot Act during his run for the Senate. She's relying on a 2003 Illinois National Organization for Women questionnaire in which Obama wrote that he would vote to "repeal the Patriot Act" or replace it with a "new, carefully crafted proposal." When it came time to reauthorize the law in 2005, though, Obama voted in favor of it. He started out opposing it: In Dec. 2005, Obama voted against ending debate--a position equivalent to declaring a lack of support for the measure. Then in February of that year, Obama said on the floor that he would support th Patriot Act's reauthorization. In March 2006, Obama both voted for cloture and for the Patriot Act reauthorization conference report.

stop with the lies.

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Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
You seem to be swallowing crocodiles and choking on gnats to justify your aintpathy. The typical white woman remark was so offensive.



Let me mention two things that are real (not imagined) threats to both of those concerns:

1. record deficits financed by loans largely from Red China

2. "Patriot" act

Does Obama's non-connection these bother you, too?

Or are you mentioning possible imagined threats again to justify your opposition? Because the threats to your pocketbook and liberty have been in full force for some years now. But you find the imagined Obama policies to be more damaging. Interesting...



You really are reaching.

Are you aware that on his application to Harvard he didn't even specify his race, preferring to not be given any possible affirmative action advantage in his admission?
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Old 08-10-2008, 08:47 AM
 
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You seem to be swallowing crocodiles and choking on gnats to justify your aintpathy. The typical white woman remark was so offensive.



Let me mention two things that are real (not imagined) threats to both of those concerns:

1. record deficits financed by loans largely from Red China

2. "Patriot" act

Does Obama's non-connection these bother you, too?

Or are you mentioning possible imagined threats again to justify your opposition? Because the threats to your pocketbook and liberty have been in full force for some years now. But you find the imagined Obama policies to be more damaging. Interesting...



You really are reaching.

Are you aware that on his application to Harvard he didn't even specify his race, preferring to not be given any possible affirmative action advantage in his admission?
You spent quite a lot of time pecking around in my paragraph of opinions. Apparently I hit a hot spot. And yes, his comment about typical white women was extremely offensive. My children are mixed and they ever pubicly spat in the face of those who raised them,... well my children never would. I'm sure Obama's childhood had hugs and sandwiches and homwork help. To sum up his caretakers love and dedication to his raising in a blanket statement of typical anything would be offensive. If he's goingt o make blanket statements about his parents, then he left out that his father is a typical black man - made a baby and didn't stick around to care for it.
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Old 08-10-2008, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Texas
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not really sure why you choose to lie. from ontheissues.

Benefited from affirmative action but overcame via merit. (Dec 2007)

the patroit act.

Clinton took direct aim at Obama and connects fairly solidly: "You said you would vote against the Patriot Act; you came to the Senate, you voted for it." Clinton is correct to say that Obama opposed the Patriot Act during his run for the Senate. She's relying on a 2003 Illinois National Organization for Women questionnaire in which Obama wrote that he would vote to "repeal the Patriot Act" or replace it with a "new, carefully crafted proposal." When it came time to reauthorize the law in 2005, though, Obama voted in favor of it. He started out opposing it: In Dec. 2005, Obama voted against ending debate--a position equivalent to declaring a lack of support for the measure. Then in February of that year, Obama said on the floor that he would support th Patriot Act's reauthorization. In March 2006, Obama both voted for cloture and for the Patriot Act reauthorization conference report.

stop with the lies.

You're still angry, aren't you!
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Old 08-10-2008, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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angry with what? no anger, I just corrected your incorrect information.

like a teacher doesn't with her student. you handed in your work, I corrected it and returned it to you. your grade is a F. you should be happy I didn't correct your spelling.

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You're still angry, aren't you!
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Old 08-10-2008, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Texas
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You spent quite a lot of time pecking around in my paragraph of opinions.
Your paragraph was brief. It didn't take any time at all.

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Apparently I hit a hot spot.
I haven't?

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And yes, his comment about typical white women was extremely offensive. My children are mixed and they ever pubicly spat in the face of those who raised them,... well my children never would. I'm sure Obama's childhood had hugs and sandwiches and homwork help. To sum up his caretakers love and dedication to his raising in a blanket statement of typical anything would be offensive. If he's goingt o make blanket statements about his parents, then he left out that his father is a typical black man - made a baby and didn't stick around to care for it.

You're beyond hypersensitive here. Still digging to justify your anger towards the man.
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Old 08-10-2008, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Texas
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angry with what? no anger, I just corrected your incorrect information.

like a teacher doesn't with her student. you handed in your work, I corrected it and returned it to you. your grade is a F.

I'm crushed.

BTW, Obama wasn't even in the senate for the passage of the Patriot Act. He was still in Illinois when the original bill came up. He wasn't elected until 2004.

Just so you'll know.
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Old 08-10-2008, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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and just so you know, about your little george bush jr.

FactCheck: Promised to repeal Patriot Act, then voted for it. (Jan 2008)

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I'm crushed.

BTW, Obama wasn't even in the senate for the passage of the Patriot Act. He was still in Illinois when the original bill came up. He wasn't elected until 2004.

Just so you'll know.
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