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Old 07-14-2008, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Why all the obvious anger?

Here's a guy who has achieved his position through hard work and high ability. He isn't the presumptive nominee because he was born with all the advantages of wealth and powerful political connections. He's where he is because he's done it the American way; he's worked his way up.

Here's a guy who doesn't seem to be motivated by personal gain. After graduating at the top of his class from Harvard Law School, he was offered very lucrative positions with Wall Street law firms. He instead returned to Chicago as a community organizer among the working poor.

Here's a guy who has a vision of repairing the obvious rift in America between left and right. Who does that threaten?
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Old 07-14-2008, 10:39 AM
 
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Why all the obvious anger?

Here's a guy who has achieved his position through hard work and high ability. He isn't the presumptive nominee because he was born with all the advantages of wealth and powerful political connections. He's where he is because he's done it the American way; he's worked his way up.

Here's a guy who doesn't seem to be motivated by personal gain. After graduating at the top of his class from Harvard Law School, he was offered very lucrative positions with Wall Street law firms. He instead returned to Chicago as a community organizer among the working poor.

Here's a guy who has a vision of repairing the obvious rift in America between left and right. Who does that threaten?
It does not threaten me.

He has achieved his position by using his smarts, charm, looks and RACE and parlaying them to this national position with backing from scum-bag South Side Chicago machinery/far left lib $$$.

No thanks, I'll vote for McCain.
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Old 07-14-2008, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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Why all the obvious anger?

Here's a guy who has achieved his position through hard work and high ability. He isn't the presumptive nominee because he was born with all the advantages of wealth and powerful political connections. He's where he is because he's done it the American way; he's worked his way up.

Here's a guy who doesn't seem to be motivated by personal gain. After graduating at the top of his class from Harvard Law School, he was offered very lucrative positions with Wall Street law firms. He instead returned to Chicago as a community organizer among the working poor.

Here's a guy who has a vision of repairing the obvious rift in America between left and right. Who does that threaten?
How about, for many of the Obama haters, he's just not the right color. Oh, they'll come up with all sorts of dubious reasons why they dislike the guy but for a significant percentage it gets back to the RW's bread and butter....bigotry.
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Old 07-14-2008, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Sacramento
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I have no problem with his accomplishments, I have a problem with:

His view on entitlement programs

His view on tax policy

His view on foreign policy

His view on corn based ethanol

His continuously shifting political positions
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Old 07-14-2008, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Came-by-Chance
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How about, for many of the Obama haters, he's just not the right color.
If this forum is any representation of the general anti-Obama American then I'd say you hit the nail right on the head....
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Old 07-14-2008, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Texas
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It does not threaten me.

He has achieved his position by using his smarts, charm, looks and RACE and parlaying them to this national position with backing from scum-bag South Side Chicago machinery/far left lib $$$.

No thanks, I'll vote for McCain.
And millions will join you. In fact, I supported McCain's candidacy eight years ago. America would be better off today if he'd been elected then instead of Bush.

But please explain how you see him using his RACE as a political advantage. I think it's generally seen that his minority status is more of a burden than an advantage. Even his own name works against him. Yet, he's been able to overcome these obstacles. I think it's because he speaks to the issues in a way that connects across racial and economic lines.

But what do I know?
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Old 07-14-2008, 10:45 AM
 
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All hats off to Obama for his educational achievement. But many have done the same. They are not running for the highest global office. I view him as dangerous, as I do not agree with his socialist/marxist/elitist ideologies. His anti-American agendas will not further us as a nation, or help us get out of the mess we have been given. Simple as that.
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Old 07-14-2008, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Texas
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All hats off to Obama for his educational achievement. But many have done the same. They are not running for the highest global office. I view him as dangerous, as I do not agree with his socialist/marxist/elitist ideologies. His anti-American agendas will not further us as a nation, or help us get out of the mess we have been given. Simple as that.

Please expalin how his agenda is anti-American.
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Old 07-14-2008, 10:49 AM
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Yet, he's been able to overcome these obstacles. I think it's because he speaks to the issues in a way that connects across racial and economic lines.
Old Gringo, there's a lot of links on here from last night and today to the new New Yorker Obama articles - you might really have fun with the Chicago politics one. Reps for such a clear-headed, air-clearing, table-clearing thread topic. Refreshing!
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Old 07-14-2008, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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We already know what the talking POINT will be after the Obama defeat.

RACISM

Seems the only ones playing the race card are the dems/libs.

They just can't understand that reasonable people will not vote for him because of his ideology and ideas.

If you bots want to think it is a race issue - go ahead. Whatever works is my motto.
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