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07-14-2008, 12:36 PM
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Location: Washington state
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Any site with the name "The Patriot Room' doesn't pass the smell test
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07-14-2008, 12:40 PM
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Location: Chicagoland
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There goes the lies again by the McCain supporters.
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What lies? From Obama's own lips?
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07-14-2008, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bily4
Nice to see Obama having the courage to tell it like it is, and not pander to a small but loud group of nut case extremists.
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He doesn't pander, he does what he knows is right regardless whether it's popular, and he doesn't come running out of the voting chamber with photo op-ready explanations. People dont know what to make of this. Look at the FISA vote. He stood up for the Constitution and he knows the Dodd-Feingold language will live to win another day. And so many so called Obama supporters DONT SEE THIS, or maybe they just are believing blogs and friends and not looking up information for themselves just like the right wing. I think I echo every single other person on the planet when I say, "What the hell is WRONG with people?"
Most distressing
But Im glad you see that about Obama.
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07-14-2008, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sanrene
What lies? From Obama's own lips?
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Show me the quote of Obama calling ICE terrorists! Every post you write on here is filled with lies, it seems you are incapable of telling the truth. 
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07-14-2008, 12:49 PM
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Location: Washington state
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All you did was twist an Obama quote and turn it into a sensationalistic thread title. I too would like to see the quote where he called ICE "terrorists." Got a link?
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07-14-2008, 12:50 PM
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You Obama supporters miss the point. The Left routinely opposes the efforts of our government to defend the integrity of our laws and the safety of our people. In the 60's and 70's people like William Ayres called policemen "pigs." Obama follows in that tradition. He has a revolutionary mindset. The revolutionary is one who believes that the exisiting order is beyond redemption and must be destroyed so that the enlightened vanguard can build anew on the ashes of the old order. Obama has been drinking from this poisoned well all his life and, not surprisingly, despite his best efforts the garbage flows from his lips as it did in San Francisco and in his speech to La Raza.
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07-14-2008, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by LLLL98
But more importantly, those who hire and provide housing for illegals must be fined heavily, if they continue to break the laws, they should be arrested and imprisoned.
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It's not that simple. You put all the blame on the small business owner who does not have the resources that large companies do. We present an I-9 to the new hire and they fill out the form. They have the choice of which doc's to provide we can't ask to see additional proof or ask them to prove their Alien # is valid. Usually a state ID or License and a Social Security Card are provided and both are very easy to fake and obtain. The Real Act has gone into effect for all newly acquired licenses, but will not affected those with a current license until 2013/2014. This should make it much more difficult to obtain a state ID license if you are not here legally. It is almost impossible to tell fakes from the real deal and running a background check will not help either. Why should business owners who hire illegal’s unknowingly be put in jail?
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07-14-2008, 01:23 PM
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Location: South Fla
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I do know that they can be faked, and I think that the federal government should provide an easier way to verify the authenticity of the documents that are presented. I also work in a construction related industry so I know that many companies knowingly hire workers with obviously faked documents, or no documents at all because they want and need cheap labor, and the laborers want work. This is illegal and should be treated as a crime.
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07-14-2008, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bily4
Nice to see Obama having the courage to tell it like it is, and not pander to a small but loud group of nut case extremists.
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Sarcasm? I believe he was pandering La Raza
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