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Old 07-15-2008, 07:29 AM
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Default Expose Obama's many faults

For instance shouldn't the public be made aware that Obama, while in the IL state senate dodged voting on abortion issues SEVEN times by taking the cowards way out and voting "present"?

Shouldn't the public be made aware that Obama in the Senate voted against a ban on late term abortions? That means any baby born alive after an attempted abortion can be killed. It's Infantcide, cold blooded murder. Obama voted cold heartly to let that practice continue.

Shouldn't the public be made aware that Obama gave $26,000 last year to Trinity Church of Christ and it's racist, sexist, filthy mouthed Anti-Americcan preacher? Shouldn't the public be made aware that Trinity Church of Christ hosted and honored black racist Louis Farrakhan in 2003 and Obama was right there shaking hands with Minister "hate Whitey" Farrakhan?

Shouldn't the public be made aware that Obama has flip-flopped on Iraq SEVERAL TIMES? First he said he would have all troops out of Iraq "as quick as possible" then "within 3 to 4 months". Then he said a year. Then he said he would have to talk to the generals in the field and it might take much longer. Now he's saying removal of some combat troops but we will have a prolonged presence in Iraq!!!

Shoulldn't the public be made aware that Obama has flip-flopped on gun control? While he was in the Il Senate he signed a position paper stating he was for banning the manufacture and sale of rifles and guns. In Pennsylvania recently in front of sportsmen hunters he stated that he was opposed to gun control legislation that would change the sale of rifles and handguns. Now he's siding with the Supreme Court decision to lift the ban on guns in DC!!

Souldn't the public be made aware of Obama's "father figure" when he was going to high school in HI being a Communist Anarchist and Labor activist?

Shouldn't the public be made aware of Obama's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham's political activities and Communist friends? Shouldn't the public be made aware that she not only instructed her son on Marxist Idealogy but she also arranged for others to further his study of Communism.

Shou8ldn't the public be made aware that Obama while at Occidental College and later at Harvard selected the most liberal Socialist leaning teachers when completing his class schedule.

Shouldn't the public be made aware that Obama has already promised to raise taxes? Souldn't they be made aware that according to his position papers he wants to expand government and government services. That means taxes will have to be raised higher and higher to pay for these programs.

Shouldn't the public be made aware of Obama's friendship with Weatherman terrorist bombers William Ayers and Bernadette Dorhn who both swore to overthrow constitutional democracy in the US and create a socialist state?

Shouldn't the public be made aware that Obama and Ayers served on the Woods Foundation board and voted to send money to the American Arab Action league founded by their Communist friends which channeled money to Islamic Terrorists in Palestine?

Shouldn't the public be informed that while on the Woods philanthropic board Barack Obama and William Ayers violated the bylaws of the foundation by not recusing themselves, like chairman Stanback did, and voted for a grant for their friends Allison Davis and Tony Rezko.

Shouldn't the public be informed that as "payback" for Obama's arranging a million dollar grant to their company, Tony Rezko and Allison Davis' company contibuted $70,000 to Obama's presidential campaign.
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Old 07-15-2008, 08:00 AM
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Default Obamaphobia

Your fear of Obama is almost tangible.
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Old 07-15-2008, 08:23 AM
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Your fear of Obama is almost tangible.

Fear is a healthy and rational emotion in clear and present danger. When someone so deleterious as Obama has as his plan to turn your world upside down and make it a very bad place, it really is the right emotion for self preservation. Fear also is a great motivator, to get rid of or eliminate that danger. Am hoping America still has the ability to feel healthy fear.
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Old 07-15-2008, 08:27 AM
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Fear is a healthy and rational emotion in clear and present danger. When someone so deleterious as Obama has as his plan to turn your world upside down and make it a very bad place, it really is the right emotion for self preservation. Fear also is a great motivator, to get rid of or eliminate that danger. Am hoping America still has the ability to feel healthy fear.

Explain lil' Bush's re-election.
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Old 07-15-2008, 08:47 AM
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Why is dissent from Obama skewed as fear?
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Old 07-15-2008, 08:54 AM
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Why is dissent from Obama skewed as fear?
All dissent is not the same.

The dissent by Major Minor above, however, is filled with falsehoods that can only be embraced if one's fears trump one's ability to examine information critically and rationally. Yet for Major Minor and the rest of the screaming sycophants on the political forums, anything and everything that shows Obama in a critical light is Automatically True And Needs To Be Repeated, And Repeated, And Repeated, And Repeated.
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Old 07-15-2008, 08:55 AM
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It isn't dissent. Holding differences with Obama's policies is reasonable. I differ with him on many issues (however I differ with McCain on more), it is his McCarthesque rantings that insinuate that the moment Obama is elected (if he is) that he will raise the hammer and sickle over the White House, that is being roundly mocked.

Domergurl - I've read and respected a lot of your posts, even if we differed on our candidate of choice, so I trust you understand the difference between reasonable intelligent policy based differences with a politician, and irrational feamongering.

It is one thing to say "I disagree with Obama's vote on FISA and am disappointed that he voted that way, and I don't buy his excuse for saying he did so" or saying "I do not feel the Obama's healthplan is the best model out there and quite frankly I preferred Hillary's approach" (both of which are true in my case), and saying over and over again "Oh my God, he's a secret communist, he will destroy us all ... Rezko, Rezko, Rezko, Ayers, Ayers, Ayers" (repeat ad nauseum), which is what Major Minor is doing.
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Old 07-15-2008, 08:58 AM
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Why is dissent from Obama skewed as fear?
A casual review of the op's contributions on this forum makes my point clear, I think.
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Old 07-15-2008, 09:03 AM
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It isn't dissent. Holding differences with Obama's policies is reasonable. I differ with him on many issues (however I differ with McCain on more), it is his McCarthesque rantings that insinuate that the moment Obama is elected (if he is) that he will raise the hammer and sickle over the White House, that is being roundly mocked.

Domergurl - I've read and respected a lot of your posts, even if we differed on our candidate of choice, so I trust you understand the difference between reasonable intelligent policy based differences with a politician, and irrational feamongering.

It is one thing to say "I disagree with Obama's vote on FISA and am disappointed that he voted that way, and I don't buy his excuse for saying he did so" or saying "I do not feel the Obama's healthplan is the best model out there and quite frankly I preferred Hillary's approach" (both of which are true in my case), and say over and over again "Oh my God, he's a secret communist, he will destroy us all ... Rezko, Rezko, Rezko, Ayers, Ayers, Ayers" (repeat ad nauseum), which is what Major Minor is doing.
Those who oppose Obama don't really care if lies are spread about him. They are okay with it as long as they think it will bring Obama down, that is why you see many of them defending irrational fearmongering threads like this one.
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Old 07-15-2008, 09:26 AM
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Those who oppose Obama don't really care if lies are spread about him. They are okay with it as long as they think it will bring Obama down, that is why you see many of them defending irrational fearmongering threads like this one.

you mean like the many lies around here about mc cain as well? including, some of your posts.......
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