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Old 07-23-2008, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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can't say for sure. I have the obama flapping heads saying that VA is up for grabs. VA hasn't voted for a democrat since johnson vs. goldwater. hell, VA didn't even vote for kennedy.

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Dino Rossi the Republican challenger won't even be listed on the ballot as a Republican. Instead he will be listed as a member of the "GOP" party.

As you can see from the link, not everybody knows what that means. BTW, we haven't gone red since the eighties, we will go for Obama easily.

Political Buzz - Dino Rossi, Democrat?
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Old 07-23-2008, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Didn't I just hear about the governor's race in a virtual tie, though?
Heck, last time the Republican (Rossi) won. The Dems who run the state and who pack the state supreme court simply overturned the results and started recounting. Surprise. They kept finding new votes until they had just enough. Ask Upton. He voted four or five times in Tacoma himself.
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Old 07-23-2008, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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Heck, last time the Republican (Rossi) won. The Dems who run the state and who pack the state supreme court simply overturned the results and started recounting. Surprise. They kept finding new votes until they had just enough. Ask Upton. He voted four or five times in Tacoma himself.

First off, I live in Lewis not Pierce Co. Secondly, after the third recount, Gregoire was the clear winner. Certified as such by Republican Secretary of State Sam Reed and later confirmed by Judge Bridges in the court case.
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Old 07-23-2008, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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First off, I live in Lewis not Pierce Co. Secondly, after the third recount, Gregoire was the clear winner. Certified as such by Republican Secretary of State Sam Reed and later confirmed by Judge Bridges in the court case.
You live in kookoo land. Yes, Sam is a loser and the Judges are in the Dems' pocket, as you well know. Here's the way it was reported. THREE recounts was all it took. Like I said. And those mysterious King County votes that surfaced. All strictly legal. And no single-digit victory. No, sir. It was over a hundred, but not TOO much...oh, it looked good -- if you wanted wanted revenge for Bush vee Gore and lived in a one-party state....

By KOMO Staff & News Services / December 23, 2004

SEATTLE - Christine Gregoire, the winner of Washington's race for governor after a third count of ballots, said she is "humbled" by the process that finally put her in the lead, but isn't yet formally declaring victory.
But in comments Thursday evening at the state Capitol in Olympia, she said the election is over, and discussed the need to move forward.

She said her transition team "is up and running."

Gregoire took a 130-vote lead over Republican Dino Rossi when King County announced its results Thursday afternoon from the recount tally.

The state's most populous county, which includes Seattle, was the last of 39 counties to report its results.

Those results included 700-plus mistakenly rejected ballots that the Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that King County may reconsider.

King County election officials found 566 of those ballots to be valid; 311 were for Gregoire, 191 for Rossi. The others either went for Ruth Bennett (26) or didn't have a vote for governor (35), or the person marked multiple candidates (1), or wrote in a candidate (2).

It's the last undecided governor's race in the country, and the closest in Washington state history.

The 130-vote margin come out of 2.9 million ballots cast.

The latest ballot recount by hand reverses the results of the first count, which Rossi won by 261 votes, and the machine recount, which Rossi won by 42. .
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Old 07-23-2008, 04:10 PM
 
Location: San Antonio North
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You live in kookoo land. Yes, Sam is a loser and the Judges are in the Dems' pocket, as you well know. Here's the way it was reported. THREE recounts was all it took. Like I said. And those mysterious King County votes that surfaced. All strictly legal. And no single-digit victory. No, sir. It was over a hundred, but not TOO much...oh, it looked good -- if you wanted wanted revenge for Bush vee Gore and lived in a one-party state....

By KOMO Staff & News Services / December 23, 2004

SEATTLE - Christine Gregoire, the winner of Washington's race for governor after a third count of ballots, said she is "humbled" by the process that finally put her in the lead, but isn't yet formally declaring victory.
But in comments Thursday evening at the state Capitol in Olympia, she said the election is over, and discussed the need to move forward.

She said her transition team "is up and running."

Gregoire took a 130-vote lead over Republican Dino Rossi when King County announced its results Thursday afternoon from the recount tally.

The state's most populous county, which includes Seattle, was the last of 39 counties to report its results.

Those results included 700-plus mistakenly rejected ballots that the Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that King County may reconsider.

King County election officials found 566 of those ballots to be valid; 311 were for Gregoire, 191 for Rossi. The others either went for Ruth Bennett (26) or didn't have a vote for governor (35), or the person marked multiple candidates (1), or wrote in a candidate (2).

It's the last undecided governor's race in the country, and the closest in Washington state history.

The 130-vote margin come out of 2.9 million ballots cast.

The latest ballot recount by hand reverses the results of the first count, which Rossi won by 261 votes, and the machine recount, which Rossi won by 42. .
The people around their mirror Upton I'd say you really need to move fast. Come to Texas were already taking your people anyways!
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Old 07-23-2008, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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Indiana too close to call ... who-da thunk it???
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Old 07-23-2008, 04:23 PM
 
Location: S.Florida
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I think its going to be very close election and the polls now mean nothing the debates will dictate the next Pres .
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Old 07-23-2008, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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McCain's winning his party's nomination is akin to Bob Dole winning it to face Clinton's re-election. It's sort of like a "lifetime achievement award" and means that he is being led as a sacrificial lamb to the slaughter, compliments of his party and his wife's money. Look at his competition for the nomination this time: a very weak field. And it was weak because the heavyweight GOP contenders knew from the outset that G.W. Bush has so tarnished the value of the GOP brand after 8 years that a GOP candidate has NO CHANCE to win the next presidential election.

There is NO WAY that John McCain is going to win the next election.
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Old 07-23-2008, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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You live in kookoo land. Yes, Sam is a loser and the Judges are in the Dems' pocket, as you well know. Here's the way it was reported. THREE recounts was all it took. Like I said. And those mysterious King County votes that surfaced. All strictly legal. And no single-digit victory. No, sir. It was over a hundred, but not TOO much...oh, it looked good -- if you wanted wanted revenge for Bush vee Gore and lived in a one-party state....

By KOMO Staff & News Services / December 23, 2004

SEATTLE - Christine Gregoire, the winner of Washington's race for governor after a third count of ballots, said she is "humbled" by the process that finally put her in the lead, but isn't yet formally declaring victory.
But in comments Thursday evening at the state Capitol in Olympia, she said the election is over, and discussed the need to move forward.

She said her transition team "is up and running."

Gregoire took a 130-vote lead over Republican Dino Rossi when King County announced its results Thursday afternoon from the recount tally.

The state's most populous county, which includes Seattle, was the last of 39 counties to report its results.

Those results included 700-plus mistakenly rejected ballots that the Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that King County may reconsider.

King County election officials found 566 of those ballots to be valid; 311 were for Gregoire, 191 for Rossi. The others either went for Ruth Bennett (26) or didn't have a vote for governor (35), or the person marked multiple candidates (1), or wrote in a candidate (2).

It's the last undecided governor's race in the country, and the closest in Washington state history.

The 130-vote margin come out of 2.9 million ballots cast.

The latest ballot recount by hand reverses the results of the first count, which Rossi won by 261 votes, and the machine recount, which Rossi won by 42. .
It's rough getting around the fact that the election was certified by a Republican isn't?

The court case:

Bridges issued his ruling on June 6, upholding the election of Gregoire. He stated that the judiciary should exercise restraint; "unless an election is clearly invalid, when the people have spoken, their verdict should not be disturbed by the court."Nullifying the election, Bridges said, would be "the ultimate act of judicial egotism and judicial activism." He also concluded that according to his interpretation of the Washington Administrative Code, "voters who improperly cast provisional ballots should not be disenfranchised." He also rejected all claims of fraud and the Republican Party's statistical analysis, concluding that the expert testimony of the Republican party was "not helpful" and that the proportional reduction theory was not supported under any law in the state. Striking another blow against Rossi's court case, he stated that "the court is more inclined to believe that Gregoire would have prevailed under statistical analysis theory," rejecting the Rossi campaign's claim that improperly cast ballots led to Gregoire's victory.
Bridges also removed five votes from the final count after receiving testimony from convicted felons who had voted: four for Rossi and one for Ruth Bennett. No evidence was brought before the court of anyone illegally voting for Gregoire. The final margin of victory for Gregoire over Rossi was 129 votes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washing...ection%2C_2004
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Old 07-23-2008, 04:27 PM
 
Location: S.Florida
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Zogby International (http://www.zogby.com/50state/ - broken link)

I am glad Florida is to close to call I like living in a state that cant be taken for granted as far as Pres election goes.
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