Would you elect an Arab-American for President? (Barack Obama, Kennedy, African)

[sansandiego]

Originally Posted by Fun2Day

Would you elect an Arab-American for President?

I ask because Obama's father may have been from Africa, but he is Kenyan and is considered an Arab, NOT black by their laws.

FYI: list of Arab countries in Africa include Somalia and Kenya. YES, I know the "look black", but they are Arabs in race.

The question remains: Would you elect an Arab-American for President? I am referring to Back Hussein, who is NOT black and who is 1/2 Arab and 1/2 White, who has deceived Americans by pretending to be "African American".

It is amazing how an Arab-American was able to deceive African Americans because of how he looks!!

I am concerned why the news media is not investigating the fake Obama Birth Certificate he has posted on his site "Fight the Smears". Fight the Smears | The truth about Barack's birth certificate

I have used photoshop for 10 years, I downloaded a copy of this "official" document, and was surprised at the poor quality of work. IF I CAN SEE THE FLAWS, SEEMS LIKE A FEW EXPERTS WOULD SEE IT & SAY SOMETHING TO THE PUBLIC. (I will provide the coordinates so you can evaluate the flaws yourself, from the birth certificate posted on Obama's own website.)

IF HE HAS TO LIE ABOUT HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE, SEEMS LIKE HE'S BUILT HIS WHOLE CAMPAIGN ON PERPETUATING A LIE!

So I began to research why & what he is trying to gain by posting a fake birth certificate and found this to be interesting article below. But before you read the article, I'd like to say that he has lied for the sake of creating an ideal image, ashamed of his own truth, he is having to hide the fact that he is an Arab man- about 43.75 Arab. Interestingly, it's not about what religion he is, but his ethnic origins.

Obama is NOT ashamed of his Arab lineage, but he must hide it because he thinks Americans would not vote for him. So he has to fool America, by claiming he is African American, to gain their hearts & pride- BUT IT IS A LIE! This is not a race issue as much as it is a "liar" issue.

Here is the truth about Mr. Obama's name, and his father's ancestors and why it matters (read more at:
Reading Between the Lines: Barack Obama: Washington Post, Chicago Tribune investigations confirm autobiography lies; now asking: Is "African-American" a lie too?
)

"Why do you think he has an Arabic name? Why does his father have an Arabic name? Why does every ancestor on his father's side have an Arabic name?"

The answer is obvious: They have Arabic names because his father's side of the family tree is Arabic.

True Negro tribal members of western Kenya where his father was born have Christian names, not Arabic. His father's decision to name him with an Arabic name is a matter of his father establishing his ethnic identity in Africa - it is done deliberately to separate him from the African tribes. He may live among them, but he is not one of them. His father's message is that he is Arabic, not Negro.

Mr. Obama is 50% Caucasian, that from his mother. What those who want Mr. Obama to write history by becoming "America's first African-American president" ignore is that his father was ethnically Arabic, with only 1 relative ethnically African Negro - a maternal great-grandparent (Sen. Obama's great-great grandparent, thus the 6.25% ethnic contribution to the senator's ethnic composition.).

That means that Barack Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side. Barack Obama is 43.75% Arabic, and Barack Obama is 6.25% African Negro from his father's side.

So, no matter what he craves, no matter what he has used to propel himself through life, no matter the racist presumption of seeing his skin and without question calling him black, the hard, cold, genetically inarguable reality remains: he is not an African-American.

Need proof? Research the Kenyan records for yourself. You will find that his father was officially classified as "Arab African" by the Kenyan government.

In America's current political climate, this truth is heresy; that truth is "an inconvenient truth." It is the political equivalent in our time to what Galileo's scientific pronouncements were in his time: it is true, but nobody wants to know the truth because the lie is so much more comforting.

That is why detractors of this truth will do everything to denounce it, except submit to the discipline of actually researching it.

There's a reason for that: it proves he is not sufficiently Negro to earn classification under American law as an African-American.

For Sen. Obama, telling the truth means he will give up all the accolades about being the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review, an accolade that relies on a sleight-of-hand in job titling that changed the name of the top job from Editor to President.

The further effect is that Mr. Obama would have to convince Americans still reeling from 9/11, Afghanistan, and Iraq, that now is the time for America's first Arab-American president.

We all know what chance that has of succeeding.

To tell the truth means Mr. Obama will have to admit that which he has never been forced to admit before, even in the face of the massive lies of his autobiography: Mr. Obama's entire projection of who he is, and what he is, is a lie.

"I have lied all during my life to play the race card, and use it, cynically, to advance myself by playing upon the racist presumption of Americans to accept, without question, that anyone of color is African-American. I lied to you, and you blindly accepted it, because of your own racist presumptions about color, and ethnic identity. I looked African-American, and your racist presumptions told you to believe it."

Researching his roots reveal that on his father's side, he is descended from Arab slave traders. They operated under an extended grant from Queen Victoria, who gave them the right to continue the slave trade in exchange for helping the British defeat the Madhi Army in southern Sudan and the Upper Nile region.

But telling America's black community that while their ancestors were breaking the shackles of slavery, Mr. Obama's ancestors were placing those shackles upon their wrists would hardly play as an Oprah Winfrey best-seller.

Being the son of a poor Kenyan goat-herder plays much better than being the son of a highly placed Arab-African who operated at the top of the Kenyan government following his education at Columbia. You see, even the way he portrays his father is a lie.

Obama's so-called autobiography is replete with "composites" - an Orwellian word for fictional characters that never existed but in Mr. Obama's imagination, even though he addresses them in his autobiography as if they are real people. They aren't; they are lies.

[TriMT7]

I'd elect Ralph Nader for President, sure.



But um... didn't Obama say his name was "Swahili"? Or was that yet another story made up by compulsive liar Obama in crafting his mythos?

I swear, the guy would lie about what he had for breakfast.

[chattypatty]

Originally Posted by CarolinaCowboy

Funny how all the liberals on here state they would vote for a Muslim, but their skin crawls when you ask them vote for a Christian?!?

As to the question, I'll be the first to answer it honesty and asnwer it for many here who are lairs. No, I would not. I studied Islam in school as the major part of my thesis. Sorry, but our beliefs and their beliefs clash on all fronts. A true, dedicated Muslim cannot conform to our society. To do so, is against their core beliefs.

That being said, I respect their religion and their right to practice it. As long as it remains peaceful. Just not as President of the United States of America.

I agree.

I would, however, consider someone like Dr. Wafa Sultan. In short, I believe there are good Muslim Arabs/former Muslims, but anyone who truly practices Islam as it is written is going to create too many concerns for me. Christian Arab -- probably would have no issue with them if they shared my values and politics.

As for Obama - I don't know his father's heritage. Perhaps his father is part Arab, part African. It is not accurate to say he is Arab and NOT African, however, any more than it is correct to say he is white and not black. He would be both.

African Muslims suffer a lot of discrimination by Arab Muslims. There was an excellent article on Arab prejudice toward blacks written by a British Muslim (convert) journalist who lived in Saudi Arabia for a year. If anyone can remember his name, I'd appreciate it. I'd like to look at the article again.

[rightofcenter]

You are definately no run of the mill racist. You put a lot of effort into your craft.

Originally Posted by sansandiego

I am concerned why the news media is not investigating the fake Obama Birth Certificate he has posted on his site "Fight the Smears". Fight the Smears | The truth about Barack's birth certificate

I have used photoshop for 10 years, I downloaded a copy of this "official" document, and was surprised at the poor quality of work. IF I CAN SEE THE FLAWS, SEEMS LIKE A FEW EXPERTS WOULD SEE IT & SAY SOMETHING TO THE PUBLIC. (I will provide the coordinates so you can evaluate the flaws yourself, from the birth certificate posted on Obama's own website.)

IF HE HAS TO LIE ABOUT HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE, SEEMS LIKE HE'S BUILT HIS WHOLE CAMPAIGN ON PERPETUATING A LIE!

So I began to research why & what he is trying to gain by posting a fake birth certificate and found this to be interesting article below. But before you read the article, I'd like to say that he has lied for the sake of creating an ideal image, ashamed of his own truth, he is having to hide the fact that he is an Arab man- about 43.75 Arab. Interestingly, it's not about what religion he is, but his ethnic origins.

Obama is NOT ashamed of his Arab lineage, but he must hide it because he thinks Americans would not vote for him. So he has to fool America, by claiming he is African American, to gain their hearts & pride- BUT IT IS A LIE! This is not a race issue as much as it is a "liar" issue.

Here is the truth about Mr. Obama's name, and his father's ancestors and why it matters (read more at:
Reading Between the Lines: Barack Obama: Washington Post, Chicago Tribune investigations confirm autobiography lies; now asking: Is "African-American" a lie too?
)

"Why do you think he has an Arabic name? Why does his father have an Arabic name? Why does every ancestor on his father's side have an Arabic name?"

The answer is obvious: They have Arabic names because his father's side of the family tree is Arabic.

True Negro tribal members of western Kenya where his father was born have Christian names, not Arabic. His father's decision to name him with an Arabic name is a matter of his father establishing his ethnic identity in Africa - it is done deliberately to separate him from the African tribes. He may live among them, but he is not one of them. His father's message is that he is Arabic, not Negro.

Mr. Obama is 50% Caucasian, that from his mother. What those who want Mr. Obama to write history by becoming "America's first African-American president" ignore is that his father was ethnically Arabic, with only 1 relative ethnically African Negro - a maternal great-grandparent (Sen. Obama's great-great grandparent, thus the 6.25% ethnic contribution to the senator's ethnic composition.).

That means that Barack Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side. Barack Obama is 43.75% Arabic, and Barack Obama is 6.25% African Negro from his father's side.

So, no matter what he craves, no matter what he has used to propel himself through life, no matter the racist presumption of seeing his skin and without question calling him black, the hard, cold, genetically inarguable reality remains: he is not an African-American.

Need proof? Research the Kenyan records for yourself. You will find that his father was officially classified as "Arab African" by the Kenyan government.

In America's current political climate, this truth is heresy; that truth is "an inconvenient truth." It is the political equivalent in our time to what Galileo's scientific pronouncements were in his time: it is true, but nobody wants to know the truth because the lie is so much more comforting.

That is why detractors of this truth will do everything to denounce it, except submit to the discipline of actually researching it.

There's a reason for that: it proves he is not sufficiently Negro to earn classification under American law as an African-American.

For Sen. Obama, telling the truth means he will give up all the accolades about being the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review, an accolade that relies on a sleight-of-hand in job titling that changed the name of the top job from Editor to President.

The further effect is that Mr. Obama would have to convince Americans still reeling from 9/11, Afghanistan, and Iraq, that now is the time for America's first Arab-American president.

We all know what chance that has of succeeding.

To tell the truth means Mr. Obama will have to admit that which he has never been forced to admit before, even in the face of the massive lies of his autobiography: Mr. Obama's entire projection of who he is, and what he is, is a lie.

"I have lied all during my life to play the race card, and use it, cynically, to advance myself by playing upon the racist presumption of Americans to accept, without question, that anyone of color is African-American. I lied to you, and you blindly accepted it, because of your own racist presumptions about color, and ethnic identity. I looked African-American, and your racist presumptions told you to believe it."

Researching his roots reveal that on his father's side, he is descended from Arab slave traders. They operated under an extended grant from Queen Victoria, who gave them the right to continue the slave trade in exchange for helping the British defeat the Madhi Army in southern Sudan and the Upper Nile region.

But telling America's black community that while their ancestors were breaking the shackles of slavery, Mr. Obama's ancestors were placing those shackles upon their wrists would hardly play as an Oprah Winfrey best-seller.

Being the son of a poor Kenyan goat-herder plays much better than being the son of a highly placed Arab-African who operated at the top of the Kenyan government following his education at Columbia. You see, even the way he portrays his father is a lie.

Obama's so-called autobiography is replete with "composites" - an Orwellian word for fictional characters that never existed but in Mr. Obama's imagination, even though he addresses them in his autobiography as if they are real people. They aren't; they are lies.

[sansandiego]

The main point I left out from last post regarding the birth certificate is- that the word "ARAB" was removed from the birth certificate.

Father's Race: ARAB AFRICAN

was changed to-
Father's Race: AFRICAN

[sansandiego]

Originally Posted by rightofcenter

You are definately no run of the mill racist. You put a lot of effort into your craft.

How does my calling someone out for being a liar -turn me into a racist?

Please show me which comment in my post you are referring to- OR is your comment just a pre-recorded response?

[rightofcenter]

Originally Posted by sansandiego

How does my calling someone out for being a liar -turn me into a racist?

Please show me which comment in my post you are referring to- OR is your comment just a pre-recorded response?

I already did - I quoted your entire post. You are the liar.

[sansandiego]

Originally Posted by rightofcenter

I already did - I quoted your entire post. You are the liar.

You sound like the Anthony family defending Casey- when there is evidence of a decomposing body in her trunk.

There is such a thing called overwhelming evidence of deceit on behalf of Obama, by Obama.

I would love to see an African American as president like Condolezza Rice or any other person who is not confused about his own race and lineage, who conveniently changes official documents (birth certificate) to match the image of himself he has created.

[CarolinaCowboy]

Originally Posted by CarolinaCowboy

Funny how all the liberals on here state they would vote for a Muslim, but their skin crawls when you ask them vote for a Christian?!?

As to the question, I'll be the first to answer it honesty and asnwer it for many here who are lairs. No, I would not. I studied Islam in school as the major part of my thesis. Sorry, but our beliefs and their beliefs clash on all fronts. A true, dedicated Muslim cannot conform to our society. To do so, is against their core beliefs.

That being said, I respect their religion and their right to practice it. As long as it remains peaceful. Just not as President of the United States of America.

My mistake, I originally thought the question was voting for a Muslim. My bad! If the person where Arab and not a member of the Islamic faith, then yes, I would be willing to vote for such a canidate. If their faith was Muslim, no chance.

[ExPit]

You know ... I'm glad you brought this up. 'Cause I've actually heard that Obama's mother was part Jewish, and his father regardless of efforts to obscure it is a good 23% American Indian. Cherokee if I'm not mistaken. But then I have heard the same about John McCain, his ancestry of the Iroqouis tribe, but at least he has Sarah Palin on the ticket, a good old fashioned red-blooded American girl, all except for the grandmother on her mother's side of course who as we know was 25% Eskimo, which would give Sarah what, 6.25 % of the same. I think I can live with that. I only thank God for a thoroughbred like Joe Biden. He is Catholic, which I'm not crazy about. I'm sure you know how they are. I wouldn't be surprised if his real allegiance is to the Vatican, that's always the problem with them. And not only that, but Joe had a great uncle admittedly only through marriage, but this guy was a hundred per cent(100!) Italian. No worse, Sicilian! My God, we'll have the mafia running things if we're not careful. You know you'd never know it to look at them, but some people are racist, and I hate to admit it but I don't know if they'll be able to vote for a guy like that. I'm just glad I don't feel that way. I will vote for the candidate with the best qualifications. Period.