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I don't like Obama cause he is a communist wrap up in a suit and tie but he is still a person with a lot of integrity and is very honest (weird for a politician).. He does flip flop issues but people are allowed to change their minds (no big deal)... Anyhow, I don't like Obama but it is 99.9% that he will be the next president simply because he has more supporters and holds the key to a lot of the "crucial" states to win the election.. McCain is a lost cause, I don't like McCain either and he is simply not a "republican" and thus he will lose, too much neoconservative agenda has ruined him (and that's a good thing)... I rather we know the "truth" of the candidates then the lies... Bush ran as a republican and won but has acted like a neocon the whole time.. and we suffered because of his lies...
So you think Obama is the messiah. Obviously you have an inflated view of the man. I think he is a politician, and I like his policies better than McCain's policys, so I'll most likely vote for him, but he is FAR from any sort of 'messiah', I find it odd that people continue to spout such nonsense.
Obama will NOT fix our economic problems, as they complex cannot be fixed by a single politician (I don't believe he ever claimed that he could, and if he, or McCain ever do, I'll dismiss the claim as pure electioneering, which is going on at a frenzied clip at this point, one would be wise to take with a grain of salt anything that comes out of anyones lips).
No single candidate has the perfect economic solution, they are both flawed, and economics as a 'science' is often quite speculative, so anyone who pins his or her economic hopes on a single candidate's economic theories and/or predictions is a fool.
Of course I don't think Obama is a messiah. He's a liberal socialist and a political hack at best. Any economic ideas he has are going to ruin us. Taxes will go through the roof, higher capital gains tax is going to increase unemployment. And he has yet to give any idea of where all the money is coming from for all of his new social plans. We don't need a socialist. If you doubt it go read his website. Do what most of these Obama supporters aren't doing, read his stance on issues. And before you say it, I don't want McCain either.
I don't care about Al Gore or any candidate other than the one who is running for an office I am being asked to consider. (I don't intend to be harsh) At the time, I did, and voted accordingly - for whom? I'm certain you would be shocked. In this election cycle, a key consideration of mine, is how well the candidates can manage and run their respective campaigns. Perhaps the next cycle there will be something else that holds weight in my mind. But at present, and in consideration of how they run the campaigns as it holds some relevance in how the US will be perceived by the World through the actions of the winning candidate, it is important. A large portion of negotiation (and diplomacy is negotiation), is perception. We are not perceived well as negotiators, hence we have poor diplomatic policy.
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I think I asked you a legitimate question to counter your generalized poor judgement = poor campaigning statement but... you are deflecting - fair enough, I'll let it slide. So, you fall for advertising (not intended to be harsh either)? Perception is not the same as truth. Truth can be found in actions (past voting records, accomplishments, associations both personal/professional not in what necessarily is said (or how it's said) and done in about a year of campaigning - that is not looking at the full picture. It's a tiny snap shot of what a candidate wants you to believe. You're entitled to fall for it... many do.
I think I asked you a legitimate question to counter your generalized poor judgement = poor campaigning statement but... you are deflecting - fair enough, I'll let it slide. So, you fall for advertising (not intended to be harsh either)? Perception is not the same as truth. Truth can be found in actions (past voting records, accomplishments, associations both personal/professional not in what necessarily is said (or how it's said) and done in about a year of campaigning - that is not looking at the full picture. It's a tiny snap shot of what a candidate wants you to believe. You're entitled to fall for it... many do.
I apologize, perhaps I missed the deeper intent of your question and will go back and review the thread to more satisfactorily answer your post. In the meantime, no, I don't fall for advertising, and review the candidates to my satisfaction. Where I place my confidence is just as complex as your process or shallow, who are you to know? Perception can be the same as truth. Truth is an elusive thing, and is rarely what it seems or what we wish it to be.
With Obama up today by 7 in the daily Gallup one needs to realize it is a 3 day running average. Thus todays posted results are the average of July 23-25 and could still be trending up as the full weight of the trip is measured. It is possible that the last couple of days could be viewed negatively and the trend reversed. The pollsters know if the results of the 25th were higher then the 23 and what the trend is. Not likely it would reach double digits so Obama supporters might want to hold their glee unless tomorrow hits 9%.
From the Gallup poll to corroborate the methodology mentioned:
The general-election results are based on combined data from July 23-25, 2008. For results based on this sample of 2,710 registered voters, the maximum margin of sampling error is ±2 percentage points.
It's amazing to me how many people actually think Obama has a chance to become president. I understand the media's reason to be fair for the reason of keeping things interesting and keeping people watching their programs. It's just amazing that so many people are living in this dream world and actually think Obama will get elected. These people must be very young and don't have a frame of reference from the past. Just only go back at last 12 years and study how these things work. These elections are decided 100 percent trust, patriotism, love for country and ability to relate to people in the heart of America. Anyone who thinks Obama can will is either delusional, young, or out of touch with middle America. It is middle America that decides elections and some people actually think they will vote against a veteran! That is not the way America thinks. I can not be any clearer than this.
They voted against Kerry.
Plus it's always the economy stupid. The economy is much more important than nationalism (e.g. your defintion of patriotism).
I think I asked you a legitimate question to counter your generalized poor judgement = poor campaigning statement but... you are deflecting - fair enough, I'll let it slide. So, you fall for advertising (not intended to be harsh either)? Perception is not the same as truth. Truth can be found in actions (past voting records, accomplishments, associations both personal/professional not in what necessarily is said (or how it's said) and done in about a year of campaigning - that is not looking at the full picture. It's a tiny snap shot of what a candidate wants you to believe. You're entitled to fall for it... many do.
After reviewing your post, I didn't deflect. I addressed your question directly. You don't like the answer. Fair enough. Your attempt to broaden my judgment of the current candidates based upon past presidential candidates is of little import. I stand by the fact that I could care less how they ran those campaigns. They have nothing to do with now. I am concerned with how the present candidates run their campaigns in the context of how they will be perceived and function on the World stage, and address the US citizens concerns, after this election. You didn't, nor did I, express any comments regarding voting records, accomplishments etc., and it was not intimated in the context of what I said.
Thank you Mr. Obama it is nice to hear we are special again. Thank you so much for giving us a feel good week about being American in the 21st century. This is probably the first time we have felt that way as you know who has been in charge just about all of it. Oh yeah and right before he really blew things we had impeachment. Man it feels good once again to be on the planet.
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) At the time, I did, and voted accordingly - for whom? I'm certain you would be shocked. In this election cycle, a key consideration of mine, is how well the candidates can manage and run their respective campaigns. Perhaps the next cycle there will be something else that holds weight in my mind. But at present, and in consideration of how they run the campaigns as it holds some relevance in how the US will be perceived by the World through the actions of the winning candidate, it is important. A large portion of negotiation (and diplomacy is negotiation), is perception. We are not perceived well as negotiators, hence we have poor diplomatic policy.
Awwww we are special
