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One of my daughter's best guy friends is gay and I love him to pieces. I've known him since he was about six. He's a great guy, funny as can be, and extremely likeable. If he were "married" or seeing someone and they wanted to come stay at my house, it wouldn't happen. He can; they can't. I know; it makes no sense but that's just the way it is for me.
By the way, it isn't religion that makes make think this way. It is I. I am to blame if someone or something needs to be blamed. Blaming seems to be the trend nowadays.
On the whole of it I agree with you on most PDA's. Hand holding, hugging and quick kisses are one thing. When it goes beyond that however I'm less supportive.
But I would however caution you on the rules of your house insofar as people staying over married or not go. My mother tried this tactic (due to religious beliefs) in no small part because a friend of hers said it was okay to employee as she in fact had that stance against her son and his gf.
In my case I'm caught in a legal loophole that is impossible to get out of. Getting married by legal definition, that the feds recognize, is not possible. Thus anytime I went to visit we were required to either sleep in seperate rooms or get a hotel. Same thing in the friends son case. The commonality between the 2 families grew when we both then decided no, I don't think so. I did not then visit my mother for several years. If she wanted to come to my home that was fine (a few states away) but I would not go to hers.
The same held true for the friends son with the catch being that they had a young child. The friend is still missing much of her first grandchild's youth because they don't visit her at all and have restricted her from visiting them - because they don't want their child hearing negative things about mommy and daddy's current maritial state.
My point is that while principles and beliefs are good, sometimes it can cost you those you love to the point that sometimes you have to wonder if some principles are really worth it.
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Grow up and stay out of other people's personal affairs. If you're so sick about how f*cked up society is cast your eyes to this $700 billion bail out that the economy-rapists are getting ready to enjoy at YOUR expense. WAKE UP!!!!
I have to second this. With all that is going on today it stuns me that people are still voting based on gay marriage - as it does that a certain other not-to-be-named-topic that keeps coming up which I won't mention by name because certain people will instantly try to turn this thread into another of those anti-x threads.
You wouldn't let him bring his significant other? May I ask, how old are you? I am not trying to be rude, I am just hoping that you are "older" and "stuck in your ways". I find most people from 40 years old and under are much more accepting of gay people, thank goodness. I mean it is 2008, not 1950, time to realize that it doesn't matter in the big scheme of things ,who loves who. I give you props though for blaming your own ignorance and not a silly book.
I'll be 60 in November, so I'm sure that's part of the problem as some see it. Yes, I'm stuck in my ways and a creature of habit and that's the way I like it.
On the whole of it I agree with you on most PDA's. Hand holding, hugging and quick kisses are one thing. When it goes beyond that however I'm less supportive.
But I would however caution you on the rules of your house insofar as people staying over married or not go. My mother tried this tactic (due to religious beliefs) in no small part because a friend of hers said it was okay to employee as she in fact had that stance against her son and his gf.
In my case I'm caught in a legal loophole that is impossible to get out of. Getting married by legal definition, that the feds recognize, is not possible. Thus anytime I went to visit we were required to either sleep in seperate rooms or get a hotel. Same thing in the friends son case. The commonality between the 2 families grew when we both then decided no, I don't think so. I did not then visit my mother for several years. If she wanted to come to my home that was fine (a few states away) but I would not go to hers.
The same held true for the friends son with the catch being that they had a young child. The friend is still missing much of her first grandchild's youth because they don't visit her at all and have restricted her from visiting them - because they don't want their child hearing negative things about mommy and daddy's current maritial state.
My point is that while principles and beliefs are good, sometimes it can cost you those you love to the point that sometimes you have to wonder if some principles are really worth it.
I have to second this. With all that is going on today it stuns me that people are still voting based on gay marriage - as it does that a certain other not-to-be-named-topic that keeps coming up which I won't mention by name because certain people will instantly try to turn this thread into another of those anti-x threads.
I didn't fuss when my son and daughter brought their almost spouses to the house overnight. I can't say I liked it, but I let it happen. Of course, they weren't 18 years old. They were both in their late 20s. Now if one of my children were gay, I haven't a clue what I'd do. I know I'd have to learn to accept it and would in due course, but I'm thankful I don't have to worry about that.
This is where I break with my conservative bretheren. Logically speaking, I just don't see the harm to someone else's marriage if two gay people, who love each other, want to get married. It's not like killing babies.
I'm not gay and I'm divorced and I'm not religious so I have no dog in the hunt and this issue is waaaaaay low on the things that matter to me.
Each religion should be able to decide if they want to perform the ceremony and since the state issues the license, the federal government (and people running for president) should stay out of it. If people feel a particular way, they should put pressure on their churches not to perform the ceremony, even if the state allows the license.
Great post except for the part about killing babies. Totally off subject, but you just had to throw it in there.
I think allowing gay marriages would bring a mess to our society, that's one of the reasons why I'm not voting for Obama because he supports gay marriages
Seriously, why is this even an issue??? I can't believe there are actually people out there that would base their choice of candidate on whether or not they support gay marriage. Unfathomable.
WHO CARES??!? I'm not gay, i'm a happily married straight woman. But why should it bother or offend me if a gay couple wants to marry? It doesn't hurt ANYONE. And I have no idea what the OP was talking about when they made the vague "gay marriage would bring a mess to our society" comment. HOW? Please explain?
I think allowing gay marriages would bring a mess to our society, that's one of the reasons why I'm not voting for Obama because he supports gay marriages
It hasn't brought a mess to the societies of Belgium, Canada, the Netherlands, Norway, South Africa, or Spain (or Massachusetts or California for that matter), so why would it bring one to U.S. society?
He should allow lesbians to marry and carry on in public. Guys OTOH is just sick, it's no wonder god hates em.
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With all that is going on today it stuns me that people are still voting based on gay marriage - as it does that a certain other not-to-be-named-topic that keeps coming up which I won't mention by name because certain people will instantly try to turn this thread into another of those anti-x threads.
