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Old 07-31-2008, 09:28 PM
 
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Investor's Business Daily
IBD Editorials
Monday, July 28, 2008

Election '08: Before friendly audiences, Barack Obama speaks passionately about something called "economic justice." He uses the term obliquely, though, speaking in code - socialist code.

During his NAACP speech earlier this month, Sen. Obama repeated the term at least four times. "I've been working my entire adult life to help build an America where economic justice is being served," he said at the group's 99th annual convention in Cincinnati.
. . .
A careful reading of Obama's first memoir, "Dreams From My Father," reveals that his childhood mentor up to age 18 — a man he cryptically refers to as "Frank" — was none other than the late communist Frank Marshall Davis, who fled Chicago after the FBI and Congress opened investigations into his "subversive," "un-American activities."

IBDeditorials.com: Barack Obama's Stealth Socialism

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Part 3: IBDeditorials.com: Obama Wants You

The Audacity Of Socialism: IBDeditorials.com
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:25 PM
 
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Default Frank Marshall Davis

They have it wrong. According to Edgar Tidwell, whom AIM's Cliff Kincaid cites as "an expert on the life and writings of Davis":

"Although my research indicates that Davis joined the CPUSA as a "closet member" during Word War II, there is no evidence that he was a Stalinist, or even a Party member before WWII. Further, to those attempting to make the specious stand for the concrete, there is no evidence that he instructed Barack Obama in communist ideology. Frank Marshall Davis did NOT believe in overthrowing the USA. He was committed to what the nation professed to be. For him, communism was primarily an intellectual vehicle to achieve a political end-a possible tool for gaining the constitutional freedoms of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for ALL Americans."

(See http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/blog/Kaleokualoha (broken link))
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:30 PM
 
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Riiight.

I'll definitely trust something from "my.barackobama.com" before an established and respected publication like Investor's Business Daily.



Nice try.
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:35 PM
 
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Election '08: Before friendly audiences, Barack Obama speaks passionately about something called "economic justice." He uses the term obliquely, though, speaking in code - socialist code.

Spot on. Economic Justice is newspeak for Wealth Redistribution. Just look at his energy policy of Windfall Profits Tax.
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:38 PM
 
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Investors Business Daily also carries editorials and columns on topics from "economics and government to politics and culture"[2]. Its editorials generally take a conservative to libertarian stance, and have been popular with conservative and libertarian bloggers. It carries columns from writers "On The Left and On The Right"[3], including L. Brent Bozell, Richard Cohen, E. J. Dionne, Victor Davis Hanson, Charles Krauthammer, and Thomas Sowell. Pulitzer-winning cartoonist Michael Ramirez has worked for IBD since late 2005. Investors Business Daily also publishes editorials skeptical about global warming and the proposed solutions to fight climate change. The newspaper is often criticized for being excessively devoted to large corporations.
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:42 PM
 
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Default Frank Marshall Davis

If you don't trust that those are the words of Edgar Tidwell, email him directly (his email address at Kansas is provided). If you don't trust that AIM's Cliff Kincaid, the leader of the right-wing disinformation campaign, considers him to be an expert, read AIM's column at Obama’s Communist Mentor.

If you don't believe that the right-wing has deliberately misrepresented the radical influence that Davis had on Obama, I challenge you to refute the "specific misrepresentations" I outlined in the referenced blog.

On the other hand, if you are predisposed to believing disinformation that confirms your biases, then have a nice life!
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Old 08-06-2008, 04:42 PM
 
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If you don't trust that those are the words of Edgar Tidwell, email him directly (his email address at Kansas is provided). If you don't trust that AIM's Cliff Kincaid, the leader of the right-wing disinformation campaign, considers him to be an expert, read AIM's column at Obama’s Communist Mentor.

If you don't believe that the right-wing has deliberately misrepresented the radical influence that Davis had on Obama, I challenge you to refute the "specific misrepresentations" I outlined in the referenced blog.

On the other hand, if you are predisposed to believing disinformation that confirms your biases, then have a nice life!
In the same post above, you first use a hilarious term like "right-wing disinformation campaign", then apparently without even noticing you go on to accuse me of "being predisposed to believing disinformation".

Do they have a cuckoo bird emoticon?
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Old 08-06-2008, 06:09 PM
 
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In the same post above, you first use a hilarious term like "right-wing disinformation campaign", then apparently without even noticing you go on to accuse me of "being predisposed to believing disinformation".

Do they have a cuckoo bird emoticon?
Kinda "telling", isn't it?
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Old 08-06-2008, 09:21 PM
 
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In the same post above, you first use a hilarious term like "right-wing disinformation campaign", then apparently without even noticing you go on to accuse me of "being predisposed to believing disinformation".

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I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough. Do you find the term "disinformation campaign" to be hilarious? Suggest you visit wikipedia to learn more about disinformation at Disinformation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. If you google "disinformation campaign" you will find over 100,000 hits.

Such campaigns originated long before the Russians originated, and the Nazis promoted, the bogus "Protocols of the Elders of Zion." Recent disinformation campaigns included "deliberate misrepresentation" by the Bush administration regarding the Iraqi threat prior to the invasion.

Or is it that you accept that disinformation campaigns occur, but you do not believe that right-wing bloggers are involved?

I have listed many items of "specific misrepresentation" in by blog at Barack Obama | Mark Davis's Blog concerning this disinformation campaign. If you review the source material, then review the bloggers misrepresentation of the source material, you may not find it to be very hilarious. If you do not believe it constitutes misrepresentation, I challenge you to refute any of the specific items listed.

BTW: I did not "accuse you" of ""being predisposed to believing disinformation". Recommend you review my comment. It was a conditional statement. "If" indicates a conditional statement. I wrote "if you are predisposed to believing disinformation that confirms your biases, then have a nice life!."

ARE you predisposed to believing disinformation? Many people are. That's how the Nazis convinced Germans to believe their lies. That's also how the Allies convinced the Germans that the D-Day invasion would occur at Calais, through a disinformation campaign called "Operation Bodyguard." You may wish to google it for future study.

IF you are not predisposed to believing this type of information, then congratulations. Welcome to the world of critical thinking. If you are, however, then have a nice life (as previously posted).
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Old 08-06-2008, 09:30 PM
 
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What's so hard to believe about a right-wing disinformation campaign?

McCain knows it well, since it was used against him with great effect by the nefarious Karl Rove.
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