Rick Warren makes great point about Obama (thought, Republicans, liberals)

[Splinter]

In response to Obama not having an opinion on when life begins...

"I would not want to die and get before God one day and go, 'Oh, sorry, I didn't take the time to figure out' because if I was wrong then it had severe implications to my leadership if I had the ability to do something about it. He should either say, 'No scientifically, I do not believe it's a human being until X' or whatever it is or to say, 'Yes, I believe it is a human being at X point,' whether it's conception or anything else. But to just say 'I don't know' on the most divisive issue in America is not a clear enough answer for me."

This guy is just not ready to lead.

[KevK]

Originally Posted by Splinter

In response to Obama not having an opinion on when life begins...

"I would not want to die and get before God one day and go, 'Oh, sorry, I didn't take the time to figure out' because if I was wrong then it had severe implications to my leadership if I had the ability to do something about it. He should either say, 'No scientifically, I do not believe it's a human being until X' or whatever it is or to say, 'Yes, I believe it is a human being at X point,' whether it's conception or anything else. But to just say 'I don't know' on the most divisive issue in America is not a clear enough answer for me."

This guy is just not ready to lead.

It is stupid question to begin with. Of course human "life" begins at conception the same as any other form of life does. The question should be when does mere "life" become a "person"? A fetus at 1 day old is NOT a person. It is a clump of cells just like the fetus of a dog, a cat or a fertilized egg. And no, we do not know the precise moment that a human fetus becomes a human person.

[Sunshine Chick]

I agree, he couldn't even answer this question when if he was ready to lead he would have already had an answer knowing it was going to be asked at some point in this next 2 months.

He wont answer these questions fully anyway because he flip flops so much that he doesnt want to put himself in concrete by answering it directly.

Sounds to me like he has a problem knowing what is right and what is wrong.

On the other hand McCain was impressive with his answers. See McCain believes in what he feels and the other one doesn't.

[sanrene]

"At birth" would have been more acceptable than the answer he gave. People might not like it, but at least he gave an answer that would be deemed acceptable to some.

[dixiegirl7]

Originally Posted by sanrene

"At birth" would have been more acceptable than the answer he gave. People might not like it, but at least he gave an answer that would be deemed acceptable to some.

I am not sure he believes it is even "at birth" since he thinks if a child accidently lives through an abortion, it should be allowed to die anyway and no attempt should be made to keep it alive. That one just takes the cake for me. Even the staunchest pro choice senators were for the bill that would allow a child like this to survive...not Obama.

[Splinter]

For purposes of clarification, can we call "Pro Choice" what it actually is, and that is "Pro Death"

I guess it makes Libs feel better about themselves to use the word "choice" instead of "death"....but if you are the opposite of Pro Life, you must be Pro Death.

[roberta]

Originally Posted by Splinter

For purposes of clarification, can we call "Pro Choice" what it actually is, and that is "Pro Death"

I guess it makes Libs feel better about themselves to use the word "choice" instead of "death"....but if you are the opposite of Pro Life, you must be Pro Death.

No one wants to think they are pro-death, but that's what pro-choice amounts to, in many cases--if the choice is to kill the baby. Some pro-choicers, of course choose not to do that. Since no one knows for a fact, exactly when a person becomes a viable human being, I would rather give the benefit of the doubt to "life at conception." Can't go wrong with that.

[sanrene]

I believe that as well. Many could argue with obama if he said "at birth". But at least it would have been a somewhat reasonable ANSWER.

Don't get me wrong - I loved his answer.

[punkrocker27ka]

Originally Posted by sanrene

I believe that as well. Many could argue with obama if he said "at birth". But at least it would have been a somewhat reasonable ANSWER.

Don't get me wrong - I loved his answer.

Republicans are pro-life because they want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers.

[Sunshine Chick]

Originally Posted by Splinter

For purposes of clarification, can we call "Pro Choice" what it actually is, and that is "Pro Death"

I guess it makes Libs feel better about themselves to use the word "choice" instead of "death"....but if you are the opposite of Pro Life, you must be Pro Death.

Stunning post.

You are so right.

Rep for you.


They want to keep murderers, rapist, criminals in prison alive forever being against the death penalty but yet the baby killing party wants to kill babies who have done nothing wrong.

Never thought of it that way, great point LIBERALS ARE PRO DEATH

Now that is a good one!