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Old 08-21-2008, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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You may want to look into those wars just a bit, as you don't seem to have much understanding of American History. While the dems started them, it required a Republican to win and bring the troops home. Every dem president that got us into war was defeated while in office with an ongoing war raging....hmmm the entire country feels safer under the watch of a Conservative Republican President as history has repeated. No I don't support the party of appeasment and socialism that is what the democrats stand for as they know nothing else. Dems hate capitalism, tax everything, double taxation for small buisness owners (the people that have kept the country going during hard and slowing economic times), tax big oil that already pays three times what it makes in profit, will they tax NBC for the billion+ they made off the olympics? As Reagan said "The scariest words I've ever heard are I'm from the government and I'm here to help"!



You done let your butt overload your mouth son!
I appreciate your Excellent understanding of History. Perhaps you can expand upon the ideologies of the Parties at the time as well as the context for which we declared these Wars. Please feel free to give your summation of the current Wars and the idealogical differences between the parties, and the current President, the history lesson will be greatly appreciated. I'm certain after reading your summation it will be easier to put in context Senator McCain's experiences, should he decide to release the data in question.

It's easy to say the Democrats start all Wars and the Republicans end them; however, those that understand the dynamics of each period easily see this as a naive look at American History, as such a simple statement leaves no consideration of the periods, nor the parties, beyond name only.



Unfortunately I cannot comment on your economic statements; however, there are threads that address the economy, and I'm certain many will wish to discuss your views.
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Old 08-21-2008, 10:36 AM
 
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What is McCain trying to hide ? Why won't he release his military records ? These are questions everyone should be wondering from someone who wants to lead our country.



why?


do you think his pictures of being a POW are just actors from Hollywood?
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Old 08-21-2008, 11:35 AM
 
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Agree. Calling McCain a traitor is heinous and outrageous. Be ashamed! This man SUFFERED. He was not in some Country Club prison, for God's sake. What on earth do you want to know other than he served and was honorably discharged?
So what? I'm very sorry that he was captured and that he suffered. That's too bad. But you hold that up like a magic shield against any kind of questioning of his service or background!
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Old 08-21-2008, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Orlando
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Since when to they give awards for crashing 3 planes? Is Air Force one next?
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Old 08-21-2008, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Y-Town Area
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why?


do you think his pictures of being a POW are just actors from Hollywood?
Well he did stay at the Hanoi Hilton but...
as I said he is running for president. He is also obviously trying to hide something. That should make one wonder since he was dealing with the Communist enemy. Do you really want a president who might betray us to the Communist Chinese ? If he's done it before and got away with it...why not again ?
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Old 08-21-2008, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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why?


do you think his pictures of being a POW are just actors from Hollywood?
McCain collaborated with the enemy, the American people have a right to know to what extent those collaborations went.
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Old 08-21-2008, 11:44 AM
 
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The wacko left party should know exactly what a traitor is, they have nominated one.

They are really hurting here, grasping for air.

Why would anyone want certified copies when it was your candidate who released a fake birth certificate and much more.

By they way, IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS what his military records say, why?

And I thought you wacko libs were for keeping personal info private?
Guess, not. Or typical whiner liberal again saying his info is our right but my info is not your right.

Obama couldn't serve in our military anyway, he would have to prove his was a US citizen and so far has no produced that info.

Obama wouldnt even stop to see wounded hero's and your asking for a military hero and genius information.

Where does it state that you are even allowed to see his info? And who would trust a commi liberal with military info anyway, I sure wouldnt. Your party would sell is out a a NY minute.

Come on libs, next failed attack is...
HAHAHAHAHAHA McCain a military hero and GENIUS?!?!? Wow I almost fell off my chair. I certainly respect the fact that McCain suffered, but I don't think having your plane crash in enemy territory and being captured makes you a "hero." Being a POW would make a person... Worthy of sympathy? yeah. Unlucky? For sure. Hero? Not really.

Obama is a citizen. So it McCain. It's a stupid argument, so shut it.

AND asking for personal information and records of candidates is absolutely allowable. They are going up for the highest office in the country. They are public servants. Soooo it kind of is our business to have important facts about them.

Ohhhh so now according to Sunshine Obama is a traitor! Riiiight. Your posts remind me of a 4-year old having a temper tantrum.
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Old 08-21-2008, 11:59 AM
 
Location: San Antonio-Westover Hills
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I have no interest in leading the country, John McCain does. We need to make absolutely sure that he is not a traitor.
Wow. Just laughable. I don't know what else to say, but I do consider the source.

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wow what a bunch of babbling
Sore loser much?

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Dont pull a Rush Limbaugh one in the world is tragic enough.
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You wouldn't be a Rush Limbaugh fan would you?
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There is no shame in not serving but I do find tad hypocrite the Rush Limbaugh type camp .
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When people say my dad ,etc served and they would serve if needed they seem to be in that Bill Oreilly- Rush Limbaugh -Ann Coulter- Shawn Hannity camp.
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The so called wacko loons served . Typical Rush Limbaugh type responce .
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I was just sticking up for Mccain when he was called a traitor but under no circumstance will I vote for Rush Limbaugh's right wing GOP
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Difference with your list is that they aren't a bunch of war mongering chicken Hawks like the typical Neocon talking heads with Limbaugh being the ultimate hypocrite.

Wow, um, Luiso, you gotta get over this obsession you have with Rush Limbaugh. It's kinda scary.

Signed,

A Dittohead
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Old 08-21-2008, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Well he did stay at the Hanoi Hilton but...
as I said he is running for president. He is also obviously trying to hide something. That should make one wonder since he was dealing with the Communist enemy. Do you really want a president who might betray us to the Communist Chinese ? If he's done it before and got away with it...why not again ?
Already happened under Clinton-Gore...how quickly some forget such important matters. China-Gate.

I do find it rather odd that prior to now no one questioned his military service. Now that he is ahead in the polls, has a higher rating in 10 of 14 areas over Obama (per the latest Rasmussen polls including; economy, international affairs, immigration, the Iraq war and several others) now we must call him a traitor and demand all his records be released. Of course up to this point in time the dems all praised McCain for his service in the military and his bravery as a POW. Obama has nothing and has been found out by many as the worthless man with no message. He has lost numbers in the latest polls from women and young voters. Go ahead try to tear down McCain, but you'll need to understand that trying to break McCain does little to raise Obama. Simple but true.

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Old 08-21-2008, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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The government has the 32 tapes that McCain made for the communists but they won't release them.


YouTube - John McCain (SongBird McCain) Traitor!
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