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I understand your aversion to increased taxes, but the mentality for the last 8 years has been to just put it on the card. We've been spending like crazy, and without benefiting the average American in the least.
I'd rather invest in technology that will increase energy independence and create jobs, for example. I'd rather invest the massive amounts that we spend on healthcare more efficiently, rather than funneling everything through insurance companies, paying the highest cost for pharmaceuticals, paying for emergency care rather than preventive care, etc. There is a smarter way. The massive ad campaigns, Doctors' retreats, skyscrapers, etc that the healthcare and pharm industries spend oodles of money on are proof that there's too much of a margin there.
Furthermore, while Obama isn't as much of a corporation cop as I'd like him to be, McCain is relying on a party firmly in corporate hands to get himself elected. That'll mean a continuation of the same corporate oligarchy that we've seen since 2001. At least Obama offers a slightly different tilt.
Furthermore, I never said business was evil. It's good! Money and profit are good things! However, the way things are now offer too uneven a playing field. I'd love to see an end to massive corporate subsidies for companies that don't need them and an increase in funding for small and medium businesses. SMBs help fuel a community feel that is lacking in many parts of this country, and they keep revenue local, fueling local economies, which leads to higher quality of life for communities.
I'd like to see more of that.
Obama isn't a perfect candidate in this regard, but he's said some things that make me believe that while we're not on the same page, we're reading the same book.
I have respect for John McCain, but had a lot more respect for him before he started running for President. He's been so busy pandering ever since that he hasn't stopped to look around and consider why he was ever considered a 'maverick'.
Those "rich little girls" wouldn't be impacted at all. They would vote for nothing more than the fact that they think it's cool. It's a peer pressure thing. They don't know what voting "from their pocket book" means. Or even what an "issue" is. I'm not angry because they are against preserving my lifestyle. They aren't against preserving my lifestyle. They don't know anything about other peoples lifestyles ... let alone how to preserve it or destroy one. If tax cuts expire, jobs will be lost and everyone will suffer. Lower tax rates benefit ALL businesses. Even businesses that rent out Limos to rich kids parents.
If tax rates increase, why would I have nothing to worry about?
problem is.. how is all the debt accumulated by george bush going to be paid for without increasing taxes somehow? Your good ole boy of joy cut taxes and gave away the farm.. now you're whining about the possibility of taxes going up like the fact that our nation is going bankrupt isn't important or recognizable? We've had bush tax cuts.. look where we are... recession and layoffs...
what's next? McCain?
You know.. i almost hope McCain gets it.. because we are in such a crap hole position right now economically... that I don't want to give republicans the satisfaction or opportunity to blame it all on obama 4 years from now...
I want people to be damn sure who and what administration and its affiliation was calling the shots when $hit hit the fan...for many of you... 4 more years wasn't enough.. you're still stuck on stupid
problem is.. how is all the debt accumulated by george bush going to be paid for without increasing taxes somehow? Your good ole boy of joy cut taxes and gave away the farm.. now you're whining about the possibility of taxes going up like the fact that our nation is going bankrupt isn't important or recognizable? We've had bush tax cuts.. look where we are... recession and layoffs...
what's next? McCain?
You know.. i almost hope McCain gets it.. because we are in such a crap hole position right now economically... that I don't want to give republicans the satisfaction or opportunity to blame it all on obama 4 years from now...
I want people to be damn sure who and what administration and its affiliation was calling the shots when $hit hit the fan...
I just want to know what this all has to do with Hip-Hop?
Those "rich little girls" wouldn't be impacted at all. They would vote for Obama for no other reason than that they think it's cool. It's a peer pressure thing. They don't know what voting "from their pocket book" means. Or even what an "issue" is. I'm not angry because they are against preserving my lifestyle. They aren't against preserving my lifestyle. They don't know anything about other peoples lifestyles ... let alone how to preserve it or destroy one. If tax cuts expire, jobs will be lost and everyone will suffer. Lower tax rates benefit ALL businesses. Even businesses that rent out Limos to rich kids parents.
If tax rates increase, why would I have nothing to worry about?
First you create an arguement about how your against redistributing the wealth- fair enough... I'm against raising taxes for any reason other than attacking our national deficit. Now you shift your focus on how higher taxes will increase job loss; interesting to note that under Clinton economy 22.7 million jobs were created– 237,000 per month .. and that was with higher taxes while balancing the budget. In contrast Bush had only created 5.8 million jobs – 72,000 per month by October 2007. We could include 2008 numbers but my guess is it would be a wash.
Again... I'm not disagreeing against either principle. Higher taxes could lead to job loss. I'm not an economist... I vote with my wallet. I'm also a capitalist (I work in sales and marketing)... I need customers to be able to buy my products or I don't have a job. I'm just trying to decipher which thought is yours, and which is just a 'talking head' bullet point.
As for my voting pattern... I'm following the smartest guy in the room... Buffett.
Those "rich little girls" wouldn't be impacted at all. They would vote for Obama for no other reason than that they think it's cool. It's a peer pressure thing. They don't know what voting "from their pocket book" means. Or even what an "issue" is. I'm not angry because they are against preserving my lifestyle. They aren't against preserving my lifestyle. They don't know anything about other peoples lifestyles ... let alone how to preserve one or destroy one. If tax cuts expire, jobs will be lost and everyone will suffer. Lower tax rates benefit ALL businesses. Even businesses that rent out Limos to rich kids parents.
If tax rates increase, why would I have nothing to worry about?
Who are these "rich little girls" you keep speaking of? Most of the snotty rich people I know are voting McCain...
First you create an arguement about how your against redistributing the wealth- fair enough... I'm against raising taxes for any reason other than attacking our national deficit. Now you shift your focus on how higher taxes will increase job loss; interesting to note that under Clinton economy 22.7 million jobs were created– 237,000 per month .. and that was with higher taxes while balancing the budget. In contrast Bush had only created 5.8 million jobs – 72,000 per month by October 2007. We could include 2008 numbers but my guess is it would be a wash.
Again... I'm not disagreeing against either principle. Higher taxes could lead to job loss. I'm not an economist... I vote with my wallet. I'm also a capitalist (I work in sales and marketing)... I need customers to be able to buy my products or I don't have a job. I'm just trying to decipher which thought is yours, and which is just a 'talking head' bullet point.
As for my voting pattern... I'm following the smartest guy in the room... Buffett.
by definition, you are not a capitalist. You are not producing anything nor selling anything through investments of your own. You are just in sales. Other than your own labor, you are really not "investing" in anything. Other than paying income tax on your income, taxes will not affect your ability to do business as say a grocery store owner or a multinational company would.
One could argue that Clinton did create a lot of jobs. But do you remember what kind of jobs those were? Remember the thing called dot.com bubble? Where people had jobs that made no sense, but since company coffers ran so deep (for awhile) they were hiring like crazy? The economy was already turning south as Clinton left office.
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