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Old 08-28-2008, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Default News: McCain Advisor Says There are No Uninsured Americans

Texas still leads nation in rate of uninsured residents | Dallas Morning News | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Business News (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/DN-Uninsured_27bus.ART.State.Edition2.4dce428.html - broken link)
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Old 08-28-2008, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Bush said the same thing. Just go to an ER and you have coverage.

Hey, if that technique is good enough for the folks from down south of the border, I guess it's good enough for real Americans.
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Old 08-28-2008, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Waxhaw,NC
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But the numbers are misleading, said John Goodman, president of the National Center for Policy Analysis, a right-leaning Dallas-based think tank. Mr. Goodman, who helped craft Sen. John McCain's health care policy, said anyone with access to an emergency room effectively has insurance, albeit the government acts as the payer of last resort. (Hospital emergency rooms by law cannot turn away a patient in need of immediate care.)
"So I have a solution. And it will cost not one thin dime," Mr. Goodman said. "The next president of the United States should sign an executive order requiring the Census Bureau to cease and desist from describing any American – even illegal aliens – as uninsured. Instead, the bureau should categorize people according to the likely source of payment should they need care.
"So, there you have it. Voila! Problem solved."
Mr. Goodman's analysis drew a sharp response from the Center for Public Policy Priorities, an Austin-based think tank focusing on poverty issues. "That is not the same thing as having health insurance," said Eva Deluna, a budget analyst for the center. People without insurance are less likely to seek care, and when they do, the cost to the health system is greater, she said.
If you call it something else then it doesn't exist. Wow, how truly freaking pathetic.
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Old 08-28-2008, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Home is where the heart is
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Bush said the same thing. Just go to an ER and you have coverage.
I've known people who died taking that approach. ERs can and will turn uninsured people away.
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Old 08-28-2008, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Moose Jaw, in between the Moose's butt and nose.
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Grandpa said that Barack is out of touch with America since he's an elitist?
Really??????
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Old 08-28-2008, 02:06 PM
LML
 
Location: Wisconsin
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That's like the time that Reagan ordered ketchup to be defined as a vegetable so he could claim that school lunch programs and programs that feed the poor were providing vegetables if they put ketchup on the table.
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Old 08-28-2008, 02:09 PM
LML
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I don't know why people think that ER treatment is free. While I was waiting for my insurance to take effect I had a gall bladder attack. I didn't know what was happening and it came on at a time when the doctor's office wasn't open and was so tremendously painful that I was forced to go to the ER. I was at the ER about 4 hours while they treated and diagnosed the problem. Cost to me? $4,170 which I had to pay out of pocket since insurance was not yet in effect. How is that free?
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Old 08-28-2008, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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I don't know why people think that ER treatment is free. While I was waiting for my insurance to take effect I had a gall bladder attack. I didn't know what was happening and it came on at a time when the doctor's office wasn't open and was so tremendously painful that I was forced to go to the ER. I was at the ER about 4 hours while they treated and diagnosed the problem. Cost to me? $4,170 which I had to pay out of pocket since insurance was not yet in effect. How is that free?
Unlike most, you decided to pay for it. I know a few people who went to the emergency room and never paid a dime. Credit? Who cares. It's not like they're going to be buying a house they can afford with the proper papers. Oh, wait...that was two years ago.
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Old 08-28-2008, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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Grandpa said that Barack is out of touch with America since he's an elitist?
Really??????
Between Romney and McCain, they own nearly 60 pieces of real estate. Could be 70. McCain isn't sure.
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Old 08-28-2008, 02:18 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I don't know why people think that ER treatment is free. While I was waiting for my insurance to take effect I had a gall bladder attack. I didn't know what was happening and it came on at a time when the doctor's office wasn't open and was so tremendously painful that I was forced to go to the ER. I was at the ER about 4 hours while they treated and diagnosed the problem. Cost to me? $4,170 which I had to pay out of pocket since insurance was not yet in effect. How is that free?
It would have been if you used a fake name like the other 20-30 million that do it.
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