What is the Real Reason You Don't Like Palin? (conservative, president, Obama)

[gizmo980]

I'm a Democrat (sort of - more libertarian in my beliefs), and I have no problem with Palin... in fact, I don't yet know enough about her to make a judgment, good OR bad. I was actually happy about his choice, but only for one reason - being that we're now guaranteed to have something new (besides old white men) in the White House! I'm sure I will have stronger opinions once I get to know about her, but for now I'm indifferent leaning towards pleased.

[Yeledaf]

Originally Posted by prim2007

I don't have anything personal against her because I don't know her. So far though, I do get concerned that she may be the "uncle tom" for women, going out of her way to fight against those issues that are meant to empower women not just pro-choice but on things like FMLA (does she want to overturn it?) Preganancy Discrimimation Act, Equal Pay Act, healthcare, gov't assistance to help all of those women forced to have their babies from rape/incests etc. I often see people go out of their way not to be a token by taking very radical views on issues that people would see them as traditionally supporting. I mean Clarence Thomas was over the EEOC, now he doesn't believe racism or sexism exists.

The real Uncle Tom attitude is to limit women -- and African-Americans, for that matter -- to one point of view and one political party, which insults both their individuality and independence of mind.

[Yeledaf]

Originally Posted by gizmo980

I'm a Democrat (sort of - more libertarian in my beliefs), and I have no problem with Palin... in fact, I don't yet know enough about her to make a judgment, good OR bad. I was actually happy about his choice, but only for one reason - being that we're now guaranteed to have something new (besides old white men) in the White House! I'm sure I will have stronger opinions once I get to know about her, but for now I'm indifferent leaning towards pleased.

I second that notion. First Obama, now Palin! As a (nearly) old white man myself, I am pleasantly surprised and hopeful about our choices in this election.

[carmac]

Originally Posted by prim2007

I don't have anything personal against her because I don't know her. So far though, I do get concerned that she may be the "uncle tom" for women, going out of her way to fight against those issues that are meant to empower women not just pro-choice but on things like FMLA (does she want to overturn it?) Preganancy Discrimimation Act, Equal Pay Act, healthcare, gov't assistance to help all of those women forced to have their babies from rape/incests etc. I often see people go out of their way not to be a token by taking very radical views on issues that people would see them as traditionally supporting. I mean Clarence Thomas was over the EEOC, now he doesn't believe racism or sexism exists.

But prim, you're talking like she is going to change all those things. I think you're wrong...if anything she shows that a woman can be anything she wants to be...isn't that what women have said they've been denied in the past?

[Summering]

Originally Posted by gizmo980

I'm a Democrat (sort of - more libertarian in my beliefs), and I have no problem with Palin... in fact, I don't yet know enough about her to make a judgment, good OR bad. I was actually happy about his choice, but only for one reason - being that we're now guaranteed to have something new (besides old white men) in the White House! I'm sure I will have stronger opinions once I get to know about her, but for now I'm indifferent leaning towards pleased.

A agree with you, and I am pleased.
I think Hillary would have been a good choice for the Dems too......

[michiganmom48]

I wouldn'r say I dislike her but I wouldn't vote for McCain anyway. I just think this Women is being used. He doesn't even know her. Would you entrust your child to watch or make a will giving your child to a person you just met one time. Well that is what McCain did. As the presidenal runner the first most important choice he will make is his running mate.Even his own party reps when asked last night by Larry King wouldn't answer the question Did McCain have better choices. I know I will hear that Obama diesn't have experience. Well he must have something. He took time to pick his Vice President choice. He knows that in picking a VP he has to face the question is something would happen to him. He even has a panel to give him fed-back. It is a important choice. McCain things from his gut. McCain thought with his knowlege that he didn't stand a chance. So he did something that would surprise and excite people and it might for awhile it won't last. And when he looses and he will all those will say it was because he picked her to be on the ticket. He didn't know her and he is to be said he values close relationships with those he works with. She is there to try and save his butt. So was she really picked for what she has done. And why did she take it when she said over and over she didn'r want it. When she looses she takes the fall and he walks away.

[Miborn]

Originally Posted by carmac

But prim, you're talking like she is going to change all those things. I think you're wrong...if anything she shows that a woman can be anything she wants to be...isn't that what women have said they've been denied in the past?

Only if it is in their party! There just pis*ed that the Republicans did it first is all......

[scorp200]

Originally Posted by carmac

Democrats...I'm just curious...what is the REAL reason you don't like Sara Palin as John McCain's pick for VP? Is is because she is a Republican, or are you somehow really upset that Obama treated Hillary so badly by not choosing her to run with him as his VP choice? And please don't say it's because she is inexperienced...she isn't running for President!

I love her as McCain's pick because it means they'll lose.

I also vehemently disagree with her position on abortion (she's against it in cases of rape and incest).

I am not a conservative, so I won't support a conservative (male or female).

I also don't like that McCain met her once and doesn't know her at all.

But aside from that - you cannot say she isn't running for president when the VP can easily be president. You have to evaluate them on the basis of whether or not they are fit to be president. Based on that, I do not think she is ready to lead. She said herself (and I've got to find this link again) she did not have much interest in foreign policy until 2007. She was the mayor of a tiny town and is governor of a huge state with few people. Despite what republicans want to spin, she is NOT more experienced than Obama - it's quality, not quantity. I don't think she is ready to lead the country.

I don't care how Obama treated Hillary and I don't think he treated her poorly at all.

[prim2007]

Originally Posted by carmac

But prim, you're talking like she is going to change all those things. I think you're wrong...if anything she shows that a woman can be anything she wants to be...isn't that what women have said they've been denied in the past?

I hope she doesn't but I remember being so excited to work with the first Executive VP women at my company and I was shocked at her opposition to many of these things as she felt these were special considerations that made women look weak. I'll wait and see.

[montanamom]

We know she's a good running mate - FOX news said so. They also pointed out that she is an expert at foreign affairs because, after all, Alaska is right beside Russia. I'm not kidding, they really said that. Of course, I don't actually watch FOX news, I just saw the clip of the moronic FOX newscaster saying that about Pallin. No wonder FOX news is the only news channel allowed to be watched in the Bush White House.