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Unread 08-30-2008, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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This isn't a game, if she somehow ends taking the #1 spot, how is she going to deal with the Chinese or Russians? They'll lay the smack down on her.
She was twice mayor and was elected governor, so she's certainly capable of castrating American Alpha-males.
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Unread 08-31-2008, 10:41 AM
 
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I also think it shows what the Right wing of the GOP thinks about women in America - we're just all interchangable. .
This is definately not true! I think Sarah Palin is quite an inspiration to women everywhere. She shows woman can have a career, succeed in politics, take on the establishment, fight big oil, all the while being a devoted mother and wife!! What an INSPIRATION !! Definately not interchangable with a woman, whos lust for power and control would lead her to stand by a lying, cheating husband. Who's rise to power was only possible because of being married to that man! No I would say they are far from interchangeable! Palin is the real deal and her pick is a huge victory for women!!!
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Unread 08-31-2008, 10:53 AM
 
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Not a Dem but an independant.

I don't dislike the woman I don't know much about her, but from the little I've read, I can see she is a poor choice for VP.

Her political and social views are mostly opposite of my own beliefs so it makes no sense for me to support her.

I think it is incredibly disingenuous or bluntly ignorant for diehard Repubs to keep drawing comparison between Obama and Pailin's experience levels as if to suggest Palin's is greater (WTF?). This is just a mild irritant.

The suggestion that she is the "answer" to Hillary not being on the ballot does infuriate me - just more "dumbing down" of politics and pandering to the least well-read amongst the American population.

When the ultra-right Repubs go into "rabid" mode and keep trying to pump up this woman's limited experience, I find it irksome because I hate being "sold" lies.

Mac pulled a political move which would have had teeth - had he picked a woman with a an impressive resume, instead he went for "glam" and instant appeal to the ultra-right. I guess we'll see how it plays out in November...

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Unread 08-31-2008, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Because she's an empty skirt running with an empty suit.
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Unread 08-31-2008, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Central Illinois -
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Because she's an empty skirt running with an empty suit.

Beautiful.
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Unread 08-31-2008, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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Democrats...I'm just curious...what is the REAL reason you don't like Sara Palin as John McCain's pick for VP? Is is because she is a Republican, or are you somehow really upset that Obama treated Hillary so badly by not choosing her to run with him as his VP choice? And please don't say it's because she is inexperienced...she isn't running for President!

ONe thing you have to understand .. it's not that i don't like Palin... I dont KNOW Palin.. This is a GREAT step for woman.. having her in the running for VP.. BUT.. let's face it..

If Hillary had NEVER been in this primary election for the democrats, and suddenly McCain saw an opportunity to wooo woman's votes on the basis of gender (because he's hoping to get the woman that are dissappointed Hillary is not on the ticket) do you really think McCain would have picked her..

Absolutley not! He ONLY picked her to woo woman into voting for their ticket on the gender card.

I don't know about other woman.. but this woman does not vote along race or gender lines.. I don't care tha Barack is black nor do I care that Palin is a woman! I vote on the issues..

Was it a smart move by McCain.. maybe.. maybe woman out there will elect him because he has a female VP and it's good for woman..BUT you have to weigh what is good for woman may not be good for this country..

As for her inexperience.. well McCain is 72 years old.. doesn't give me much confidence that the man will not die in office!! And if he does.. Palin will be in charge.

On the other side.. yes. Obama will be president... with an experienced VP at his side but I feel that Obama is ready.. and should something happen to him (the only thing I could see happening is some white supremicist racist person assasinating him) then his VP choice would be able to fill the presidents shoes..

I don't dislike Palin.. but I do not support the Republican parties platform.. and so I will be voting for Obama.. and will wait for the right woman to be in office (Hillary was the right woman!)
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Unread 08-31-2008, 11:17 AM
 
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ONe thing you have to understand .. it's not that i don't like Palin... I dont KNOW Palin.. This is a GREAT step for woman.. having her in the running for VP.. BUT.. let's face it..

If Hillary had NEVER been in this primary election for the democrats, and suddenly McCain saw an opportunity to wooo woman's votes on the basis of gender (because he's hoping to get the woman that are dissappointed Hillary is not on the ticket) do you really think McCain would have picked her..

Absolutley not! He ONLY picked her to woo woman into voting for their ticket on the gender card.

I don't know about other woman.. but this woman does not vote along race or gender lines.. I don't care tha Barack is black nor do I care that Palin is a woman! I vote on the issues..

Was it a smart move by McCain.. maybe.. maybe woman out there will elect him because he has a female VP and it's good for woman..BUT you have to weigh what is good for woman may not be good for this country..

As for her inexperience.. well McCain is 72 years old.. doesn't give me much confidence that the man will not die in office!! And if he does.. Palin will be in charge.

On the other side.. yes. Obama will be president... with an experienced VP at his side but I feel that Obama is ready.. and should something happen to him (the only thing I could see happening is some white supremicist racist person assasinating him) then his VP choice would be able to fill the presidents shoes..

I don't dislike Palin.. but I do not support the Republican parties platform.. and so I will be voting for Obama.. and will wait for the right woman to be in office (Hillary was the right woman!)
Palin has electrified McCain's conservative base, many who are white women, he needed to do that much more than he needed the few moderate Clinton supporters he may have gotten. There was no one out there that McCain could have picked that would have ignited his campaign like Palin has, besides possibly Bobby Jindal, who took himself out of the running! Ridge, Lieberman, Pawlenty all yawners who posed problems of their own for McCain. Romney would have been an excellent choice, but you know the Dems were already locked and loaded to smear him. Palin was a brilliant pick in the short term we will all see if it was in the long term! How she does in the debates will be the next test!
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Unread 08-31-2008, 11:20 AM
 
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Palin has electrified McCain's conservative base, many who are white women, he needed to do that much more than he needed the few moderate Clinton supporters he may have gotten. There was no one out there that McCain could have picked that would have ignited his campaign like Palin has, besides possibly Bobby Jindal, who took himself out of the running! Ridge, Lieberman, Pawlenty all yawners who posed problems of their own for McCain. Romney would have been an excellent choice, but you know the Dems were already locked and loaded to smear him. Palin was a brilliant pick in the short term we will all see if it was in the long term! How she does in the debates will be the next test!

How can you possible think that a completely, completely inexperienced lady is ready to be the leader of the free world if something happens to McCain who could be one of the oldest presidents in american history? how can you possible justify that? forget about that she is cute and that she has a nice personality. she has no experience and doesn't know anything about foreign affairs and has never been out of the country until 2007!!!! she probably could not name the leaders and presidents of the countries in europe, much less the middle east. what an enormous blunder she will be.
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Unread 08-31-2008, 11:20 AM
 
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Palin has electrified McCain's conservative base, many who are white women, he needed to do that much more than he needed the few moderate Clinton supporters he may have gotten. There was no one out there that McCain could have picked that would have ignited his campaign like Palin has, besides possibly Bobby Jindal, who took himself out of the running! Ridge, Lieberman, Pawlenty all yawners who posed problems of their own for McCain. Romney would have been an excellent choice, but you know the Dems were already locked and loaded to smear him. Palin was a brilliant pick in the short term we will all see if it was in the long term! How she does in the debates will be the next test!
Romney was the better choice, totally.
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Unread 08-31-2008, 11:20 AM
 
Location: NY
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Democrats...I'm just curious...what is the REAL reason you don't like Sara Palin as John McCain's pick for VP? Is is because she is a Republican, or are you somehow really upset that Obama treated Hillary so badly by not choosing her to run with him as his VP choice? And please don't say it's because she is inexperienced...she isn't running for President!
Because of McCain's age and prior health issues, her inexperience IS a big issue for me and the risk factor is something I simply CANNOT discount it and in fact it is my main objection to her.

If you are asking me what my objection to her would be if she were running for VP with say, Romney? I would still have qualms because I simply do not feel she could step in and be President if something awful happened (sorry, I've lived too long to blithely assume that ANYTHING is "unlikely to happen"!!).

Here's an example: Had McCain chosen Huckabee, who I object to because of his fundamentalist religious beliefs, I would have been unhappy with the choice because (again) I would PREFER not to have President Huckabee if that scenario were to arise. However, I would NOT be AFRAID of the scenario (in other words I wouldn't think Huckabee could not handle the job of President). However, I simply cannot bring myself to believe that Palin is in ANY way WHATSOEVER qualified to be President should the need arise. I'm pro-choice and so having a militant pro-life President is something I would rather not see but I can live with that as long as I feel the person can HANDLE THE JOB at hand.

I find it ironic that McCain's new slogan is "Country First". How is selecting a VP who is unqualified to take over as President at a moment's notice, putting the country first? It's putting "Getting Elected First".
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